REading 2006 Sonata check engine light code

[Voyager]

While I'm sipping Chianti with good bread and cheese in Tuscany, I'll be
thinking of you under the hood trying to get those back plugs out.

You are a cruel man, Mr. Pawlowski, but I agree with you analysis.

Matt

 

[Voyager]

The old trick of opening the hood at night with the engine running and
looking for arching wires still works.

Well, most of my plug wires arch all of the time, but they seldom arc.

Matt

 

[Voyager]

Unfortunately, no. Such is the case with nearly every OBD-II
product. You'll need an OBD-II code reader. If you're planning on
purchase, choose one that's CAN compatible so you'll get the most
future use out of it.

Stopped by the dealer today and they read the code, which this time was
there and the light was still on. I didn't write down the number, but I
believe he said it was a P2167. It was a "lean" indication and they
suspect the O2 sensor. I take the car in on Thursday to get it fixed.

Matt

 

[Ed]

Stopped by the dealer today and they read the code, which this time was
there and the light was still on. I didn't write down the number, but I
believe he said it was a P2167. It was a "lean" indication and they
suspect the O2 sensor. I take the car in on Thursday to get it fixed.

Matt

Well at least now you know. I assume this will be repaired under warranty?

 

[Ed]

$85? I've never spent more than $40 for both. And I don't have "back
plugs", I have an elantra, they are all on the top. It's funny how you had
to try and boost your ego by talking about renting a villa in Italy and
buying big ticket items. Who cares?

Now I unsderstand better. If you don't like the message, attack the
messenger.

At $40 for both, maybe you do have to replace them more often. Anyhow, with
the savings, you can buy 625 cans of Campbell's Tomato Soup. Or 200
gallons of diet cola on sale. We have a bottle deposit in our state so
maybe only 185 gallons until you redeem the empties.

Your friend,
Ed P

 

[Ed]

Stopped by the dealer today and they read the code, which this time was
there and the light was still on. I didn't write down the number, but I
believe he said it was a P2167. It was a "lean" indication and they
suspect the O2 sensor. I take the car in on Thursday to get it fixed.

Matt

Interesting. I wonder why it showed after a fill up. I'd have thought
something like that would happen under any circumstances. It does prove
that the shade tree mechanic is a thing of the past unless he has a code
reader.

 

[Ed]

Interesting. I wonder why it showed after a fill up. I'd have thought
something like that would happen under any circumstances. It does prove
that the shade tree mechanic is a thing of the past unless he has a code
reader.

Yep, one of the best investments I ever made.

 

[Ed]

Now I unsderstand better. If you don't like the message, attack the
messenger.

At $40 for both, maybe you do have to replace them more often. Anyhow, with
the savings, you can buy 625 cans of Campbell's Tomato Soup. Or 200
gallons of diet cola on sale. We have a bottle deposit in our state so
maybe only 185 gallons until you redeem the empties.

Your friend,
Ed P

I wasn't the only "attacker" here. I just don't know why you needed to
critique my replacement regiment by boasting how you spend your money.
Remember any one the internet can be a prince of Nigeria. As for the
quality of my plugs and wires, if you don't know how good NGK's are, you
probably shouldn't be handing out advice. I've only had problems with
the oems so far, the NGK's have been great. If you would like to
critique my other regular maintenance, here's my schedule:

Air filter @ every oil change (granted it's just a wash and re-oil, K&N
filter)
Coolant: yearly
PS fluid: every 2 years
Brake fluid: every brake job
Blinker fluid: haven't had to replace that yet, the muffler bearings
either.

 

[Ed P]

I wasn't the only "attacker" here. I just don't know why you needed to
critique my replacement regiment by boasting how you spend your money.

I didn't see any other "attackers" but I don't know why you are jealous of
how I spend my money. Everyone has their personal tastes. People buy
extended warraties and service plans and never use them too. Their choice.
If I spent my money on un-needed services, I'd not be able to travel every
few years. But don't stop on my account.

Remember any one the internet can be a prince of Nigeria.

I'm regarded as Royalty in Poland.

As for the

quality of my plugs and wires, if you don't know how good NGK's are, you
probably shouldn't be handing out advice. I've only had problems with the
oems so far, the NGK's have been great. If you would like to critique my
other regular maintenance, here's my schedule:

Air filter @ every oil change (granted it's just a wash and re-oil, K&N
filter)
Coolant: yearly
PS fluid: every 2 years

Never tried the K&N filters. I've heard too much negative on them. OTOH,
I've never had a problem with paper filters so I'll continue to use them.
They work so why play with oil? Change as recommended at 30,000

Coolant today is good for 3 to 5 years. I go that long and have never had a
cooling problem since my '53 Merc. I've never changed PS fluid even after
15 years and 200,000 miles.

Considering that track record, I'm not going to change my schedule to spend
more money. As for automatic trasmissions, I've only ever change fluid in
one of them in 48 years of car ownership. Only one has ever has tranny
failure. Guess which one? I'll never change it again.

..

Brake fluid: every brake job

I'd agree on that. In my case, about 3+ years and 60k+ miles.

 

[Ed]

I didn't see any other "attackers" but I don't know why you are jealous of
how I spend my money. Everyone has their personal tastes. People buy
extended warraties and service plans and never use them too. Their choice.
If I spent my money on un-needed services, I'd not be able to travel every
few years. But don't stop on my account.



I'm regarded as Royalty in Poland.

As for the

Never tried the K&N filters. I've heard too much negative on them. OTOH,
I've never had a problem with paper filters so I'll continue to use them.
They work so why play with oil? Change as recommended at 30,000

Coolant today is good for 3 to 5 years. I go that long and have never had a
cooling problem since my '53 Merc. I've never changed PS fluid even after
15 years and 200,000 miles.

Considering that track record, I'm not going to change my schedule to spend
more money. As for automatic trasmissions, I've only ever change fluid in
one of them in 48 years of car ownership. Only one has ever has tranny
failure. Guess which one? I'll never change it again.

.


I'd agree on that. In my case, about 3+ years and 60k+ miles.

Wow, must be easy being oblivious. I'm not sure how you figure I'm
jealous of how you spend your money. I just said that if you feel the
need to brag about how you spend it in this post it's only to boost your
ego. And you were the other "attacker", you attacked my suggestion to
replace spark plugs yearly. You may not agree with that and that is
fine. You attacked the amount of money I "waste" on maintenance. Fine if
you don't want to do maintenance on the same schedule, but you don't
have to brag that you buy high ticket items and go on European
vacations. All you had to do was say something like "I don't change them
yearly, they should last longer than that." Or "I haven't needed to
change my coolant in 5 years and it is still fine." But no, you had to
go and come off sounding like a douche. I'll agree that I may change
some of my fluids more often than needed, but that's my choice.

And for you other people reading this exchange, you should do your
maintenance as you see fit, or at the recommendation of your favorite
service tech. Really what's important here is keeping our cars running
like new and however you go about achieving that is fine.

 

[Ed P]

Wow, must be easy being oblivious. I'm not sure how you figure I'm jealous
of how you spend your money. I just said that if you feel the need to brag
about how you spend it in this post it's only to boost your ego.

If you were not offended or jealous, you'd never bring it up. Something
struck a nerve. Maybe it was the realization that you could still have a
maintained automobile and do some extra things in your life.

You attacked the amount of money I "waste" on maintenance. Fine if you
don't want to do maintenance on the same schedule, but you don't have to
brag that you buy high ticket items and go on European vacations. All you
had to do was say something like "I don't change them yearly, they should
last longer than that." Or "I haven't needed to change my coolant in 5
years and it is still fine." But no, you had to go and come off sounding
like a douche. I'll agree that I may change some of my fluids more often
than needed, but that's my choice.

Attacked? No, I but the money into a perspective that people can
understand. Do you have an unfulfilled desire to travel? Does seeing how
much you spend over the years hurt? I know people that could buy a new car
merely by stopping smoking.

I made no personal attack, but it you want to be a victim, you may.

 

[jp103]

I'm glad that you added the P to your user name. For a while I was
concerned that you were a dual personality.

 

[Ed]

If you were not offended or jealous, you'd never bring it up. Something
struck a nerve. Maybe it was the realization that you could still have a
maintained automobile and do some extra things in your life.




Attacked? No, I but the money into a perspective that people can
understand. Do you have an unfulfilled desire to travel? Does seeing how
much you spend over the years hurt? I know people that could buy a new car
merely by stopping smoking.

I made no personal attack, but it you want to be a victim, you may.

I have wasted far too much of my time on a troll like you. I have added
you to my ignore list. Goodbye.

 

[Ed P]

I'm glad that you added the P to your user name. For a while I was
concerned that you were a dual personality.

Yes, but that does not mean I'm not crazy!

My computer died so I'm using my wife's until my new one is ready. Bought a
new computer with the money I saved on not changing spark plugs the last few
years.

 

[Ed P]

I have wasted far too much of my time on a troll like you. I have added
you to my ignore list. Goodbye.

Aw, you'll still be reading and waiting for this reply. No, I'm not a troll
at all; look up the definition. You'd do better and be more accurate by
classifying me as a PITA.
Bye

 

[Voyager]

On 1/19/2010 2:40 PM, Voyager wrote:
Well at least now you know. I assume this will be repaired under warranty?

Actually, didn't know. I left the Sonata at the dealer today and they
now say the problem wasn't the O2 sensor after all and it really IS
reading a lean condition due to a leak at the intake manifold. They say
a new gasket is needed so we shall see.

I can't remember ever having an intake manifold gasket go bad, so I'm
somewhat suspicious that when they pull the manifold to replace the
gasket they will find something more serious such as a cracked or warped
manifold or head mating surface.

I assume this will be a warranty repair given that I'm the original
owner and the car is less than 10 years old and has less than 100,000 miles.

Has anyone else had a 2.4L engine with a failed intake manifold gasket?
hyundaitech, is this a failure mode you see often?

Matt

 

[Voyager]

Interesting. I wonder why it showed after a fill up. I'd have thought
something like that would happen under any circumstances. It does prove
that the shade tree mechanic is a thing of the past unless he has a code
reader.

I am guessing now it was pure coincidence (see prior post about leaking
intake manifold gasket).

Matt

 

[Ed]

Actually, didn't know. I left the Sonata at the dealer today and they
now say the problem wasn't the O2 sensor after all and it really IS
reading a lean condition due to a leak at the intake manifold. They say
a new gasket is needed so we shall see.

I can't remember ever having an intake manifold gasket go bad, so I'm
somewhat suspicious that when they pull the manifold to replace the
gasket they will find something more serious such as a cracked or warped
manifold or head mating surface.

I assume this will be a warranty repair given that I'm the original
owner and the car is less than 10 years old and has less than 100,000
miles.

Has anyone else had a 2.4L engine with a failed intake manifold gasket?
hyundaitech, is this a failure mode you see often?

Matt

I can't say I've ever heard of one going bad on a car so new either.

 

[jp103]

Yes, but that does not mean I'm not crazy!

My computer died so I'm using my wife's until my new one is ready. Bought a
new computer with the money I saved on not changing spark plugs the last few
years.

LOL You can get a nice big monitor with the fluid and air filter
savings as well.

 

[Voyager]

I can't say I've ever heard of one going bad on a car so new either.

It certainly seems odd to me. I hope it isn't a hint of things to come.
I had a 1984 Honda Accord that was a pretty good car until 4 years of
age and 60,000 miles. It began to systematically self-destruct at that
point and I have not owned anything since that said Honda on it (not
even lawn mowers!).

At least the Sonata has warranty left!!

Matt