2006 Sonata V-6 Paint Problem

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Well, in fact, I know you are right, but this is not My problem, it's THEIR!
My problem is that I have a brand new near 30K$ car, 4 months old, and
already have paint problems. My dealer wants to show this to the Hyundai
representative. I'll keep you guys in touch with this issue.

What I'll do, I will take lot of pictures of it, and go see 2 independent
body shop experts for examination. I think you're right, bad surface
preparation, or no primer at all. Maybé a hardener problem? Paint is
bubbling, and soft to touch.

Shaman
 
My dealer wants to show this problem to the Hyundai representative. Now, I
am asking: paint problems, what's next??!!??

I'll keep you in touch with this issue.

Shaman
 
I have a 2006 Sonata V-6, bought last May, color crystal silver. the paint
is "bubbling" inside the 4 doors, under the hood and under the trunk. The
bubbles are soft, like if the paint didn't dry. The bubbles are located
inside the doors, near the trim where the sheet steel is folded and welded.
My hyundai dealer said "no problem, we will fix it" but I just don't want a
brand new car been sanded and re-painted.

Anybody experienced this?
What should I do, as I don't want it to be re-painted?

Thanks for advices

Shaman
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I have read all the posts below...and I agree with you. Obviously it
should be fixed at no charge...and any good dealer (or the company
itself) would throw in a "present", be it some future free service or
something. I currently own two Hyundai Elantra GTs (03 & 05) and am
very happy with both cars. I will be buying one for my son soon too. I
have had zero problems with either car, however, it seems to be a
fairly common known fact that the paint on Hyundais is a weak point.
Not like yours, but just very thin and very easy to scratch. It gets
touched it leaves a mark and I also find this to be true. Don't sour
on Hyundais just for this IF they take care of you properly.
Good luck.
 
Well, in fact, I know you are right, but this is not My problem, it's THEIR!
My problem is that I have a brand new near 30K$ car, 4 months old, and
already have paint problems. My dealer wants to show this to the Hyundai
representative. I'll keep you guys in touch with this issue.

What I'll do, I will take lot of pictures of it, and go see 2 independent
body shop experts for examination. I think you're right, bad surface
preparation, or no primer at all. Maybé a hardener problem? Paint is
bubbling, and soft to touch.
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I wasn't excusing Hyundai at all. I was just saying how difficult it
is to maintain paint quality with all the government regulations.

I was also saying that a new paint job would be better than the
original, because small body shops don't have all the regulations.
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Bob
 
Shaman said:
Well, in fact, I know you are right, but this is not My problem, it's THEIR!
My problem is that I have a brand new near 30K$ car, 4 months old, and
already have paint problems. My dealer wants to show this to the Hyundai
representative. I'll keep you guys in touch with this issue.
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I sure hope those are Canadian dollars!

Matt
 
jtees4 said:
I have read all the posts below...and I agree with you. Obviously it
should be fixed at no charge...and any good dealer (or the company
itself) would throw in a "present", be it some future free service or
something. I currently own two Hyundai Elantra GTs (03 & 05) and am
very happy with both cars. I will be buying one for my son soon too. I
have had zero problems with either car, however, it seems to be a
fairly common known fact that the paint on Hyundais is a weak point.
Not like yours, but just very thin and very easy to scratch. It gets
touched it leaves a mark and I also find this to be true. Don't sour
on Hyundais just for this IF they take care of you properly.
Good luck.
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I'm noticing that on my Sonata as well. I waxed the car a couple of
weeks ago for the first time and was amazed at the number of scratches
in the paint. And the front of the rear fencers and the rocker panels
are just blasted from stones from the tires. My Sonata has worse
looking paint after 8 months than my Chevy truck does after 13 years ...
and that is not an exaggeration! I'll take pictures and post if anyone
wants to see them.

I put mud flaps on my Sonata shortly after I bought it, but they are too
short of be of much help. They protect at most the front half of the
rocker panels. My truck mudlfaps are much more effective, but the paint
also seems a lot more durable.


Matt
 
Thanks, jtees4, my Hyundai dealer want me to meet the Hyundai
representative. It's looking good for an agreement, but, like I said, an
extra "something" would be pleased. As I said, i'll keep you in touch with
all this.

Shaman
 
On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 08:55:24 -0400, "Shaman"
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What primer? I hit a deer in May 06 in 06 sonata gls head on. It
knocked the paint right off the hood right down to the bare metal . I
have pics of this. I couldn't see any primer.
 
Bloozefan said:
What primer? I hit a deer in May 06 in 06 sonata gls head on. It
knocked the paint right off the hood right down to the bare metal . I
have pics of this. I couldn't see any primer.
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Did you look at the paint layers with a loupe? It isn't unusual on
modern cars for the paint to come off en masse. My minivan took a rock
to the hood last winter and this happened as well. A chip about the
size of a pencil eraser came off cleanly down to bare metal which of
course began to rust immediately. It had primer, but you had too look
at the exposed edge of the paint very carefully to see it.


Matt
 
If you want to place the blame for the thin paint check the VOC
requirements the gov't passed. It's like a lot of things we are
getting done to "protect" us.
 
Let's see: color match, orangepeel, tape lines, shiny areas that were
formerly dull, etc. I see many cars that were repaired. On most, it's
not obvious unless you're looking. But if you're looking, you can almost
always tell.

As far as the paint being the same quality as the (properly done) factory
job, I don't buy that, either. In general, factory paint jobs apply a
much thicker coat and use better adherence methods than a body shop can
attain. That's not to say that you can't get a very good paint job, just
that it won't be the same as factory.
 
hyundaitech said:
Let's see: color match, orangepeel, tape lines, shiny areas that were
formerly dull, etc. I see many cars that were repaired. On most, it's
not obvious unless you're looking. But if you're looking, you can almost
always tell.
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I guess it is just in my blood to always be looking. :-) I can usually
tell when a car has been repainted when I'm 30 feet away. Occasionally
I have to get closer and look for the signs you mention above. However,
the depth of the paint often just doesn't look the same as a factory
paint application. I can't explain it, it just looks different.

As far as the paint being the same quality as the (properly done) factory
job, I don't buy that, either. In general, factory paint jobs apply a
much thicker coat and use better adherence methods than a body shop can
attain. That's not to say that you can't get a very good paint job, just
that it won't be the same as factory.
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And many factory paint shops use electrostatic added paint application
which helps get paint in the nooks and crannies much better than most
aftermarket paint shops. There are probably some that use such
techniques, but I haven't come across one locally yet. And many car
makers use painting robots extensively. Few humans can match the
consistency of a robot for things like paint application, welding and
adhesive application. Some of the top custom painters and pinstripers
can, but not the average painter you find in middle America. Even most
custom painters depend on finish sanding, polishing and buffing to get a
shine that most factories get from the application alone.

Watch some of the custom car building shows on TV. They generally sand
off half of the paint they apply.


Matt
 
In the auto factory that I worked in, we had a robot that buffed the vehicle
after final paint. It used some pretty abrasive compounds to get the final
clear finish.
 
razz said:
In the auto factory that I worked in, we had a robot that buffed the vehicle
after final paint. It used some pretty abrasive compounds to get the final
clear finish.
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Which factory was that? I don't think I've ever seen any post finishing
in a modern auto plant, at least other than on a rework line.

Matt
 
What's your email address. I'll show you "enmasse". Let me send you
these pics. There is no primer. period.
 
This is good! The dealer should be fighting Hyundai to satisfy his
customer. I will be a 3 time owner if I trade in my 2002, but the 2007
Sante Fe looks like a Dodge Ram Truck with its blown out front. It is
wider than my 2002 so I fear it won't fit in our 1940 garage. But I
love my Sante Fe, I take very good care of him, 2006 Sante Fes are SOLD
OUT at my Dealer & none to trade for. So that $8,000 credit is gone.
So husband agrees we wait til 2008 to see what they put out there.
 
Our dealer has had many Sonatas returned for peeling paint & all have
been repainted at no cost to them. They got free rentals too! This is
a great dealer!!!! N Olmsted OH
 
My dealer told me that this is not a "problem", this is absolutely normal as
they put "silicone" (??) to prevent water infiltration. It is not supposed
to be the paint bubbling, but the "silicone" joint that we see. here is the
pic:

http://server4.pictiger.com/img/591212/cars-and-motors/img-0538-2.php


As I said in a previous post, I will show this to an independent body shop
expert and go back to my hyundai dealer with the report. I took lot of pics,
and asjked Hyundai to track this in their system too.

Shaman
 
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