Would you buy again ?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by desgnr, Aug 24, 2007.

  1. desgnr

    jmh_ottawa Guest

    It's always a toss up between multiple uses.. commuting vrs towing. I know
    a few people who tow with escapes, and other small to mid size suvs.
    Granted they aren't going to pull 5000lbs but then if that was what was
    being towed you're right a purpose built vehicle is required.

    After seeing the specs of vehicles like the escape and dodge nitro.. both
    with 3500lbs ratings i'd edge towards them as a next vehicle simple
    because the santa fe isn't quite in the same playing field.

    Thanks for your input though as it makes perfect sense.. even if for 90%
    of my use towing isn't a requirement.
     
    jmh_ottawa, Aug 25, 2007
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  2. Throttle sensitivity bothered me for a month or so, but no more. One of us
    has changed, I guess. It has been a common complaint though.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Aug 25, 2007
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    I can't remember if you have standard shift or automatic. With an
    automatic, it would likely not be an issue and I didn't notice it with
    the two automatics I test drove. I suspect it is amplified with
    standard shift. You drive a BMW and then the Sonata and the difference
    is night and day. BMW knows how to do standard shift right and Hyundai
    hasn't a clue.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Aug 25, 2007
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    Darby OGill Guest


    YES!
     
    Darby OGill, Aug 25, 2007
    #24
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    James Guest

    2006 Tucson. Have not had to take it back to dealer for any service
    except for a factory recall to replace the passenger airbag. The
    little SUV has been perfect and trouble-free. Really good value for
    the money so far.
     
    James, Aug 25, 2007
    #25
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    Eric G. Guest

    Well, I have an automatic and the throttle sensitivity is still an issue
    for me. Yes, I have gotten used to it, but there are still times,
    especially after driving another car of just about any make or model,
    when I am still stunned by it. I can't imagine how you engage the
    clutch without chirping the tires or stalling on almost every 1st gear
    start.

    And not to argue the point about BMW's, but I personally think Honda has
    the best manual on the market. But I know you are a little anti-Honda,
    Matt.

    Eric
     
    Eric G., Aug 25, 2007
    #26
  7. I have auto. I've either gotten used to it or it smoothed out over time.
    It was a PITA the first month or so. Going from one car to another does not
    seem to make much difference though. I may have mention it before, but the
    wife of a guy at work got rid of her 06 LX after six months solely because
    of the throttle.

    No doubt the BMW is much better. I've not driven one for a while but
    performance was better than the Sonata, but the price tag was much different
    also.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Aug 25, 2007
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    I've gotten fairly good at starting out, unless there is a lot of noise
    around like a large truck or Harley sitting beside me. Neither the
    clutch nor the throttle gives any tactile feedback, unlike every other
    standard shift car or truck I've driven. So, without aural feedback, it
    is easy to either stall the engine or race it to 2,000 RPM when starting
    out.

    Actually, the most troublesome area for me is still the 1-2 shift. I
    rarely get that done smoothly. 2-3, 3-4 and 4-5 aren't bad now.

    I've never driven a stick shift Honda so I have no basis for comparison.
    Of all the cars I've driven, the BMW is the best. For trucks, my
    current Chevy K1500 with the MT8 transmission is the best.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Aug 25, 2007
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    ']['unez Guest

    Yes I would, I have 3 a 2003 Santa Fe a 2005 XG350L and a 2006 Tucson love
    them all

    ']['unez
     
    ']['unez, Aug 25, 2007
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    PMDR Guest

    I've had my Sonata for 14 months now and I have recommended it to
    other people. It's a great deal for the money.

    For an even better deal, look at used instead of new.
     
    PMDR, Aug 25, 2007
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  11. According to Consumer Reports (who, for better or worse is very impressed
    with the redesigned Santa Fe), towing is rated at 3,500 pounds with the V6
    engine.
     
    Rev. Tom Wenndt, Aug 25, 2007
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    Leonardo Guest

    We currently have a '99 5 spd Elantra wagon which we bought new.(A leap
    of faith at the time) Not a whole lot to complain about in 8 years and
    122K miles. Replaced upstream O2 sensor which corrected the check engine
    and also the cold start valve. The paint and power window regulators are
    subpar. We drive easy road miles mostly and are still on original
    clutch, brakes, exhaust and struts. The time and alarm module is shot,
    but I found one on Ebay.

    I think cars are made so well now that I'll probably buy used next go
    around. The likely candidate is a Hyundai kissin' cousin, Kia Spectra5,
    which I feel is a heck of a lot of car for the money.....but I'll give
    the re-introduced Elantra wagon a chance to tempt me.

    L.
     
    Leonardo, Aug 26, 2007
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    rosalie Guest

    I own a 2005 Tucson and it's the first and last Hyndai that I buy.
    Fuel consumption is terrible, I had problem with the wheel alignment and
    customer service is the worst I have seen.
    I previously own a Toyota RAV-4 and a Honda Accord wich I consider a better
    product than Hyundai.
     
    rosalie, Aug 26, 2007
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    Zotto Guest

    As told in this video:
     
    Zotto, Aug 26, 2007
    #34
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    Wayne Moses Guest

    Reply to message from "desgnr" <> (Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:
    43:52) about "Would you buy again ?":

    d> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?

    Are you going to base your decisions on the responses of a bunch of 'names'
    in an Internet newsgroup? Could be trolls in here and people with agendas
    other than providing an unbiased response.

    While I loath to do this let me suggest you consult Consumer Reports while
    taking any negative responses here with a grain of salt.

    I have personally owed 5 Hyundais so far and if they have one to fit my
    needs next time I am in the market I will certainly buy it.

    Regards
    Wayne Moses <> Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:34:35 -0500

    === Posted with Qusnetsoft NewsReader 3.3
     
    Wayne Moses, Aug 26, 2007
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    razz Guest

    And you call CR unbiased? One of the most biased medias I know of.
     
    razz, Aug 26, 2007
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Also take Consumer Reports with a large dose of salt. They are quite
    biased and don't track the long-term reliability of vehicles. And there
    data is from a bunch of "names" who are their subscribers and thus
    aren't necessarily a representative sample of drivers nationwide.

    I've own two cars that were at nearly opposite extremes of CR ratings: a
    1984 Accord and a 1989 Acclaim. The Accord, though drooled over by CR,
    was a POS. The day I traded it on the Acclaim was one of the happiest
    days of my life. CR constantly panned the Acclaim, but that was the
    best car I've ever owned. The Sonata may supplant it, but I'll need at
    least another 100K miles before making that assessment.

    The Acclaim was bullet-proof. When my wife totaled it in a deer
    accident at 143,000 miles, it still had the original exhaust system and
    the only thing it had required other than normal maintenance and wear
    items was a new flex plate that cracked at around 100,000 miles. The
    Accord had required more repairs in the first 60,000 miles (including a
    $900 exhaust system and that was back in the 80s!) than the Acclaim
    required in its entire life. The Accord engine failed at 72,000 miles
    and required a new top end (camshaft and complete set of rocker arms),
    whereas the Acclaim engine was absolutely bullet-proof up to 143,000
    miles. Change the oil and filters and run it. Even the engine
    accessories were original when it was totaled.

    So, take CR with a BIG dose of salt. They give you their initial
    impressions in their tests and then depend on subscriber surveys for
    data longer term, but even that ends at 5 years as I recall.

    Personally, I've found the "long term" (typically still only a year or
    so) tests that Popular Mechanics runs are much more useful that CRs
    results. And PM isn't afraid to also criticize Japanese cars unlike CR
    who seems to think the Japanese can do no wrong.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Aug 26, 2007
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  18. Absolutely! My current Elantra is my second Hyundai. I bought it
    specifically because of the great service I got from my first one.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Aug 27, 2007
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    Leonardo Guest

    Then there is the 'Honda/Toyota Syndrome'

    The inability,to publicly admit that one has had problems with said
    vehicles.

    Denial, embarrassment, separation from the herd?...not sure why, but I
    know it exists.

    L.
     
    Leonardo, Aug 27, 2007
    #39
  20. Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?

    Do you work for Hyundai?

    - Thee Chicago Wolf
     
    Thee Chicago Wolf, Aug 27, 2007
    #40
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