Transmission fluid change

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Mcd.Enterprises, Jan 4, 2006.

  1. Hi guys new to the board , little question to ask , i am looking to
    change my automatic transmission fluid on my Elantra 03 GT , could you
    tell me the exact location of the drain plug ??

    Thanks

    Dem
     
    Mcd.Enterprises, Jan 4, 2006
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    You can head over to http://www.hmaservice.com and sign up for a free
    login. You will be able to access Hyundai's web based service manuals
    for free. Also, sometimes after you sign up, you have to click the
    resend password to get one. And for more help check out the forums at
    www.elantraclub.com

    Very Important!! Use only Hyundai's SPIII transmission fluid or you
    could ruin your transmission! No Joke

    Cheese Toast
     
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    BAin Guest

    My trannie died after a wrong fluid issue....

     
    BAin, Jan 5, 2006
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    hyundaitech Guest

    The drain plug is in about the center of the bottom of the case. You'll
    need a 24mm wrench or socket.
     
    hyundaitech, Jan 5, 2006
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  5. Thanks for all the information guys , much appreciated

    Dem ..
     
    Mcd.Enterprises, Jan 7, 2006
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    Paul Guest

    Is this true about using other than Hyundai transmission fluid ? I just had
    mine changed by an independent and now I'm worried. Should I go have
    Hyundai do it ?
     
    Paul, Jan 10, 2006
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    Bob Guest

    Very true. You don't say what year, so there's a variable. Ask them what
    they used, and ask to see the container. If your car's dipstick says SP III,
    and the container doesn't say either Hyundai SP III, Kia SK III, or Diamond
    (Mitsubishi) SP III, then IT IS THE WRONG STUFF!. If it says it meets
    Chrysler 7176 (ATF +3) it's still not the right stuff, but from what several
    have said, it's pretty close, and might work OK. If it says Dexron, and they
    have made it into a "compatible fluid" with a magic additive, it is causing
    damage every time you drive the car. Some even say there's an issue where
    it's existance in the transmission is continuously causing damage - running
    or not.

    If it's not SP III, and the car says SP III on the transmission dipstick, it
    needs to be removed (Flushed YESTERDAY if it's "converted" Dexron). If the
    dipstick (manual) says SP II, and they used 7176 (ATF +3), then you're OK.
     
    Bob, Jan 10, 2006
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    Paul Guest

    Thanks Bob...I will check it out. It's a 2003 Santa Fe. 2.7 liter V6
     
    Paul, Jan 10, 2006
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  9. Yup, like mine, it requires SPF III, please check what they put on it, if
    it's Dextron, or Mercron .... get it out ASAP.
     
    Victor A. Garcia, Jan 10, 2006
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  10. As I said in another post, a Kia regional tech rep says you should do okay
    on ATF+3 fluid, and acknowledged that the distribution system to get out the
    SP-III fluid has not gone as well as hoped.

    Hopefully that will change, as the new fluid labeled ATF+4 comes to market.
    Once you see it, THAT will be the compatible fluid, and it should be much
    more common within 18-24 months.

    But yes, type 'F', Mercon or Dexron is NOT considered compatible fluid by
    any means.

    Tom Wenndt
     
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    Paul Guest

    OK Here is what I have learned about my automatic transmission.

    There is nothing on the dipstick saying anything about the type of fluid to
    use. My owners manual says that I can use either one of the following:

    Genuine Hyundai ATF
    or Diamond ATF SP-III
    or SK ATF SP-III.

    The stuff used by the independent who changed my transmission oil used:

    Quaker State Muti-Vehicle ATF.

    Is this close enough to the Genuine Hyundai ATF or do I have a problem ?

    Thanks for the help.
     
    Paul, Jan 10, 2006
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    Bob Guest

    Good question. It seems to be a magic, fits all fluid. It
    http://www.pzlqs.com/Tech/Pdsheet/Q...df/MultiVehicleAutomaticTransmissionFluid.pdf
    says alot about Dexron compatibility, but nothing about "Meets SP-III specs"
    It does say "Suitable in all Hyundai's", but if the Tranny goes belly up,
    and it it would otherwise be covered by warranty, and they (Hyundai) knows
    that's what's in there, you might have a problem. Maybe it does everything
    SP-III is supposed to. Try calling Quaker State, and ask where to send a
    letter to requesting a signed statement from an authorized officer of the
    company something to the effect of "QSMVATF meets the requirements of
    Hyundai SP-III. If a failure of your tranny occurs, and Hyundai says it's
    'cause the wrong fluid was used, QS will pay for the repairs, and directly
    seek reimbursment from Hyundai, blah, blah, blah." The sell sheet above says
    they think it works in that transmission, and maybe it will work OK, but the
    fight will be yours if something goes wrong. It is not what Hyundai has
    listed.
     
    Bob, Jan 10, 2006
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    Paul Guest

    Thanks Bob.

    --
    Paul

     
    Paul, Jan 11, 2006
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    I don't know for sure, but I'd say you have a problem. Many of the new
    transmissions are very sensitive to having the proper fluid as many,
    Chryslers I know for sure, do such tricks as intentionally slipping the
    lock-up clutch in the TC. For this slipping to work properly, the oil
    must have a very specific amount of slipperiness. The incorrect fluid
    won't have this and will cause problems, maybe not immediately, but over
    time. The clutch may begin to shudder, the transmission may begin to
    shift abruptly or shudder during shifts, etc.

    When the maker specifies a particular fluid type, you are well advised
    to follow that recommendation, especially during the warranty period.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jan 11, 2006
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    1 Guest

    It's possible you could have a problem or you might have none. But
    when you are talking about a $2000 risk it's really up to you. I
    bought my car used and the dealer had just done a flush with Penzoil
    multi-something or another. I found out about strictly using SPIII a
    few months later, so I contacted the dealer and griped about it and
    they told me Penzoil will guarantee it's fluid. So i'm stuck going to
    that same dealer to have my flushes done, just in case there is a
    problem. So far it's been nearly a year and i've had no problems but
    better safe than sorry.
     
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    Jim Wasiura Guest

    I had my 2002 Sonata back to the dealer 5 times for hesitation at
    start and in 3rd and fouth gear. They change parts and they said they
    changed the transmission. The car still hesitated and bucked. This car had
    29000 miles on it and I had it in every 3mo for service. Needless to say the
    car is gone and I am the proud owner of a Liberty 4 by 4. Never will I buy
    and Hyundai Product. The service manager assured me they drove 40 miles with
    no problem. I pulled out of the lot same thing. Why do they always lie. Keep
    you Hyundai s mine is gone.
     
    Jim Wasiura, Jan 18, 2006
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    Matt Whiting Guest

    Did you try a different dealership? Did you contact the Hyundai zone
    office, or whatever Hyundai calls their equivalent of the US brands zone
    office system?

    I had a Jeep Comanche that was a pretty good vehicle, but I know others
    with Jeep horror stories. They don't rate high on most reliability
    indexes. And my Comanche had several things that the dealer could never
    fix. Things such as the pressure sensor on the power steering system
    that increased the throttle when you were making a sharp turn. This was
    supposed to offset the extra power being drawn by the pump, however, the
    calibration was way off. It added way too much throttle enough that the
    rear end would spin out if you made a sharp turn on ice or snow. It was
    very annoying and hazardous if you weren't expecting it. Of course,
    this was not adjustable. I "fixed" it simply by disconnecting it.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Jan 18, 2006
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