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Oh boy, here we go again. Where's this data? EXACTLY how much of a

difference? What are the FUNCTIONAL differences?


I provided you with oil analysis data for Super Tech Full Synthetic

5W-30. Do you have anthing to refute the conclusions therein? Do you

have any data showing that any other oil is demonstrably superior in any

way? You can keep making vague references to an old motorcycle magazine

article if you wish, but that's not good enough. It's time to either put

up or shut up.



Define "far better". What does that nebulous term mean in the real

world? How much of a difference in lubrication are we talking about

during a typical oil change interval? Is there even ANY AT ALL?


It's convenient to throw around meaningless terms with nothing to back

them up or provide any context. The bottom line is that you simply don't

know, but you're not going to let that prevent you from making unfounded

claims. You read one article that's what, six years old, and that's

aparently become gospel for you. When you look at it that way, it seems

pretty ridiculous, doesn't it?



Again, a pointless attempt to confuse the issue with a specious argument.


If the SAE minimum standards exceed the requirements of engine

manufacturers - WHICH THEY CLEARLY DO - how can that possibly be a

problem? It can't be, except apparently in YOUR mind.


BTW, I'm a Quality Assurance Engineer, so you're really barking up the

wrong tree when you try to make such ridiculous claims.


The SAE has continuously raised its standards, which has resulted in

continuous improvements in oil quality. Does that mean all oils are the

same? Of course not, but the more you raise the standard, the smaller

the differences become, since the upper limit isn't changing much, if at

all. When you get right down to it, there hasn't been a truly

significant development in motor oils since the introduction of

synthetics. The bottom line is that there is no such thing as a

poor-quality, API certified oil.


Speaking of synthetics, if natural oils are sufficient to meet the needs

of the engine(s) - WHICH THEY ARE ACCORDING TO HYUNDAI - synthetics,

which are demonstrably superior, are already a classic case of

"exceeding the need". What possible REAL-WORLD difference could it make

if one synthetic is fractionally "better" than another?


The truth is that unless you're trying to push an oil to the limits of

its life by abusing your engine (racing) or extending your change

intervals to 10K, 15K or more miles, it doesn't make any difference what

oil you use. As long as you use an API SL/SM certified oil and change it

at Hyundai's suggested intervals, there is not likely to be any

difference in normal driving. If you don't want to believe that, it's

your perogative, but your personal paranoia doesn't change anything.

Perhaps you just find all the brand-name hype and bluster comforting,

but the truth is that it's just noise, as are your arguments.


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