My Windshield Washers have Prostate Trouble. Help!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Richard Steinfeld, Sep 4, 2009.

  1. 2000 Sonata.

    Problem is common to both nozzle heads. I've tried un-blocking
    the nozzles in the usual way, cleaning possible mineral deposits
    with a sewing pin. I've tried running hot water through the
    system in the hopes that the pump had been sludged by gel deposit
    from cheap windshield-washer fluid (this worked for me with a
    Ford). No luck so far.

    Symptom: fluid output is very weak. Pulling the lever produces an
    immediate, half-hearted spurt, with sustained dribbling. Pump
    motor sounds normal. I suspect blockage ahead of the common hose
    or a loose pump impeller. It doesn't appear that the hose is
    being crimped near the hood hinge; the problem persists with the
    hood raised.

    It's flaccid; the poor thing's got no more virility.

    Is there a known routine failure in this system?

    I can't figure out how to get at the pump or the hoses; they, and
    the tank, appear to be obstructed between welded panels. Anyone
    know how I can fix this?

    TIA

    Richard
     
    Richard Steinfeld, Sep 4, 2009
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    Mike Marlow Guest

    It may be a plugged line. You'll need to take it off to check. It may be
    on there pretty tight and you may have to... jerk it off.

    You can access the reservoir by removing the splash panels underneath the
    car. That should give you access to the pump and the point where the lines
    attach.
     
    Mike Marlow, Sep 6, 2009
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    hyundaitech Guest

    Mike's sent you in the right direction here. Pull the hose off one of
    the nozzles and see if you get a good strong stream out of the hose
    when the washer is activated. If not, remove the pump from the
    reservoir (accessing from under the car as described by Mike) and
    check the pump screen. I've seen many clogged by slime.
     
    hyundaitech, Sep 7, 2009
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  4. Nice to see you again, HT.

    I was able to clear the slime in an Aerostar a few years ago by
    running a few tankfuls of hot water through the system. The only
    thing I can think of that might cause the slime was the previous
    owner's use of cheap pre-mixed washer fluid.

    There's something in the tank's neck that I've never seen before.
    It looks like a pink foam plastic piece. Any knowledge about that?

    Thanks to both of you! I feel encouraged.

    Richard
     
    Richard Steinfeld, Sep 8, 2009
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    TheDragon Guest

    I unblocked mine yesterday. There was a small rubber gauze inside the
    reservoir. The pump fitted into it. Pulled the pump out, and then the rubber
    ring. It was disgusting. Resembled....well something really nasty.

    All working well again. I blame myself, using washing up (Fairy) is not good
    for the system.
     
    TheDragon, Sep 10, 2009
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    hyundaitech Guest

    Nice to see you again, HT.
    Wow. Hadn't noticed it was you when I first replied. Good to see
    you, too.

    The foam piece is a float intended to enable you to judge the fluid
    level you can't physically see.
     
    hyundaitech, Sep 11, 2009
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  7. What I'm still not clear about is how do I access these parts
    from underneath the car?

    Does "nasty" = slime?
    What's "washing up (Fairy)? It's not a term that I know here in
    USA, but I think I've seen it in UKese.

    Something strange I'm coming across recently is unexpected slime
    in unexpected places. Like, in the sink where I rinse my dishes.
    Now, what's different is that here in the San Francisco East Bay,
    our water supplier has been using a chemical in the water that's
    supposed to kill the germs without corroding the pipes. It's
    called "Chloramine," and it consists, amazingly, of the two
    substances that we've always been told to never mix together
    upon, literally, the pain of death: ammonia and chlorine!

    Well, yeah: I guess that it sure kills germs. It also kills
    tropical fish and, I believe, birds. And what does it do to us?

    Anyway, this is the only change I'm aware of. As I mentioned
    earlier, I found slime in my Aerostar's washer tank; flushing it
    out with hot water cured the problem. Flushing in this case =
    filling the tank a few times with hot water and running the
    washer pump constantly. Doing this with the 2000 Hyundai Sonata
    is a bit tricky because if you keep the washer lever pulled for
    more than 1 second, it runs a three-sweep wiper cycle.

    Feedback?

    Richard
     
    Richard Steinfeld, Sep 11, 2009
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    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    If you want to do that, get a helper to spray some water on the windshield
    until the pump starts giving enough to keep it wet.
     
    Ed Pawlowski, Sep 11, 2009
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    hyundaitech Guest

    You'll need to take the front portion of the fender liner loose and
    pull it down. It'll attach to the bottom of the bumper cover with two
    screws or plastic inserts. I don't recall which.

    You'll need to lay on your back to for the next step, so prepare for a
    quick exit. Once you get the fender liner out of the way, reach up
    and pull the wiper motor out of the washer reservoir-- it's primarily
    held in place by the rubber grommet in the reservoir-- and leave the
    area quickly to avoid getting very wet. Usually, a rocking motion on
    the washer motor eventually pulls it loose, but if that doesn't do the
    trick, you might wish to use some needlenose pliers between the pump
    and reservoir to pry it out.

    There's a screen in the pump inlet which can clog with slime/goo.
    When you feel comfortable with returning to the area near the
    reservoir, simply dig the goo out. You should be able to remove the
    remainder with some sort of water type spray bottle.
     
    hyundaitech, Sep 14, 2009
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  10. Thanks, HT.

    I almost see it. I think I'll go to the on-line manual and see if
    there are any pictures.

    Also, I thought I'd mention this angle.
    Since I was successful once in the past with using hot water to
    melt-out the obnoxious gel, I may give this a try again.

    However, when I tried it a few days ago, the system seemed to be
    too plugged for even this to work. In fact, it got a bit worse.
    Now, this last bit may, in fact, be an indication that it's
    working. But, on the other hand, it may be just moving the goop
    to new locations where it semi-solidifies again.

    Hmmmm.
     
    Richard Steinfeld, Sep 14, 2009
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