Hyundai Resale value!

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by taters2, Oct 7, 2006.

  1. taters2

    taters2 Guest

    Paid close to $18000 in 5 years value down to about 1/3.
     
    taters2, Oct 7, 2006
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  2. That seems like a steep drop ; why do u suppose Hyundais dont hold
    their value too well ?

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    Dave in Lake Villa, Oct 7, 2006
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  3. taters2

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Reputation for poor quality, hopefully, from the past. I've heard the
    early Hyundai's were really pretty bad. I have an 06 Sonata and it has
    been very reliable thus far. Quality is pretty good, but the interior
    plastics on the dash are pretty chintzy and scratch very easily.
    Otherwise, quality seems decent, particularly for the price of the vehicle.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Oct 7, 2006
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  4. IMO, that is not all that bad. Take a look at other 5 year old cars and
    compare selling price to sticker price. My 2001 Buick LeSabre is showing a
    retail sale value of about 1/3 of the sticker price. Trade in value about
    60% of that according to KBB, but even less in reality since mine is high
    miles. .

    Getting back to Hyundai, they had a poor reputation for many years. Ask
    anyone that owned on from the 1980's and see what condition it was in after
    a few years. So it may have been many years ago, but reputations take a
    long time to change. If you asked me even a few months ago, I laughed at the
    idea of buying a Hyundai. Like the ads say "rethink everything" so I did
    and found the car to be stylish, seemingly well made, a good value for the
    money.

    What changed my mind about the car? The owners of my company were on a trip
    and had a Sonata as a rental. They were impressed with everything about it
    and thought it was much better than the typical Impala or Taurus they would
    usually rent. Given their high marks (they normally drive Lexus, Audi,
    Corvette, Avalon) I thought it deserved a check out. I did so and was
    impressed.

    Also, I never liked the styling of the older Sonata. Just my opinion, but
    it was nothing I would consider. IMO, all the new Chrysler cars should be
    trashed also. I'd not buy a new Camry because the new front end is ugly
    too. Obviously, others like and buy them but people even buy maple walnut
    ice cream so there is no accounting for taste.

    Did I consider resale value in my purchase? Since I keep cars for a long
    time, no. My '91 Regal was worth the $1 they gave me for a trade and it was
    easy to dispose of that way.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Oct 7, 2006
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  5. taters2

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Likewise. The older Sonata's (and Hyundai's in general) had terrible
    styling. They looked like a poor copy of a Jag in the front and I'm not
    sure what in the back, maybe a candy bar that was in the sun too long.
    I didn't like the "melted" look at all. It reminded me a little of the
    original Ford Taurus ... butt ugly.

    Yes, why would anyone eat maple walnut ice cream when you can have good
    natural vanilla bean or strawberry? :)

    Same here. I tend to keep vehicles until the wheels fall off. I hope
    the Sonata holds up as well as my Chevy and Chrysler vehicles have held
    up. So far, so good, but 13,000 miles isn't enough to make a judgement.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Oct 7, 2006
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  6. 'Ask anyone that owned on from the 1980's and see what condition it was
    in after a few years. So it may have been many years ago, but
    reputations take a long time to change. If you asked me even a few
    months ago, I laughed at the idea of buying a Hyundai. Like the ads say
    "rethink everything" so I did and found the car to be stylish, seemingly
    well made, a good value for the money.'

    REPLY: I had a feeling it was about the earlier Hyundais ; yes, ive
    heard aweful stories on that era Hyundai. Before i bought my 2002
    SantaFe and a 2004 SantaFe for my elderly mom, i looked intently into
    Toyotas RAV4 as it seems to have a much lower depreciation rate . But, I
    just could not see spending the additional money for the RAV4 which had
    less of a motor, less equipment, and less of a warranty . I didnt think
    it was as stylish as the SantaFe either. I made good decisions as both
    SantaFe's have been very reliable, practical, and fun to drive.

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    Dave in Lake Villa, Oct 8, 2006
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  7. I guess we won't know for sure for a long time. I was unhappy with my last
    GM car and decided to go this way instead. But it will be a couple of years
    to know for sure if it was a good decision. I'll probably hit 2000 miles
    tomorrow.

    I remember my father buying cars in the 50's and 60's and going back to the
    dealer a week or two later with a list of 10 or 15 items to be fixed. Then
    again in another few months with something else. So far, I have zero.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Oct 8, 2006
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  8. taters2

    PMDR Guest

    Resale value only actually matters if you intend to sell it. I plan to
    keep mine for at least 10 years at which point it won't have any value
    anyway. But that's OK. I don't look at my car expecting it to hold
    value. I expect it to start when I want it to and not break down, and
    perhaps be fun to drive.

    It's transportation, not an investment.

    My last car -a Toyota Corolla- was almost 12 years old when I bought my
    06 Sonata. The Hyundai dealer wanted to give me 600 bucks for it.
    Ended up selling it myself for more a little money but it was a 12 year
    old car with a lot of miles. What IS that worth? Not a lot. Not even
    a Toyota holds value.

    In 2016, I bet my Sonata ends up being worth the same 600 bucks.
     
    PMDR, Oct 8, 2006
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  9. taters2

    Matt Whiting Guest

    The last GM car I owned was a 1979 Chevette. :) However, my 94 K1500
    really has been, as the commercials said, "Like a rock." It is 12 years
    old and has been used pretty hard hauling firewood and plowing a 1700'
    long driveway. It only has 95,000 miles as much of its work has been
    "off road" where the miles don't rack up that fast. Other than a
    pushrod that failed early during warranty (5200 miles) and a u-joint I
    had to replace in the front driveshaft a couple of years ago (dur to
    snow plowing most likely), it has been rock solid.

    It hardly even shows any rust yet after driving in PA nad NY road salt
    all these years. I see Nissans and Toyota's of this vintage and the
    fenders are falling off of them.

    I'll almost certainly buy another Chevy truck, but I expect to get 20
    years out of this one at the rate it is going so my next truck will be
    well into the next decade.

    Yes, I've also had zero defects of this nature (assembly issues) with my
    Sonata. I have several issues with many aspects of its design, but
    these aren't things the dealer can fix.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Oct 8, 2006
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  10. taters2

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Actually, it also matters if your car gets totaled in a wreck as my
    minivan did last December. The insurance payout is based on the market
    value of the vehicle in most cases (I guess some policies can be had now
    with replacement cost coverage, but I've never had one). So,
    depreciation could hurt a lot in that case as well as the trade-in case.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Oct 8, 2006
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  11. I bought a 3 yr old Hyundai for less than 1/2 it's original new value, from
    a Hyundai *dealer*. Consider yourself lucky to only lose 1/3. Mine still had
    a valid basic warranty when I bought it. Poor resale value equals great used
    car value.

    Still, I wonder if Hyundais depreciate that much worse compared to other
    non-Japanese makes. In some ways, Toyota and Honda live in a parallel
    universe.

    Chris
     
    Christopher Wong, Oct 8, 2006
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  12. taters2

    Old_Timer Guest

    Old_Timer, Oct 8, 2006
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  13. taters2

    PMDR Guest

    Yes, of course you are totally correct. I never think about totaling
    the car. Hope it never happens.
     
    PMDR, Oct 9, 2006
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  14. taters2

    Tom Guest

    I also like my 06 Sonota very much. I tried buying a Toyota but the two
    dealerships I visited were so nasty and arrogant that I would never consider
    them again. You can't even get to the cars without going through the
    showroom and being assigned a salesperson. They have it fenced off to
    funnel customers into the showroom. I had to show my salesman how to open
    the hood!!! The sales manager called me 'cheap' because I didn't want to
    pay the extra $500 that just showed up on the paperwork. Not even the
    friggin dealer documentation fee, which was $700!!!!! Never will I set foot
    in Togoa land again.......
    In contrast, I was in and made a deal with Hyundai in 5 minutes. Took the
    moon roof cost off without me even saying a word, gave me $1500 more off,
    got the rebate, and I had so little to pay between the new car and the old
    one that I couldn't make the $10,000 limit to get another $1000 rebate from
    Hyundai Finance that they wrote ME a check for $6000!!!!! to make the
    difference. Then I paid it off in 3 months with no penalty. Now THAT'S
    what I like. I've been buying new cars every 2 years for the last 40 years
    and never had that experience.

    Tom
     
    Tom, Oct 9, 2006
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  15. taters2

    Matt Whiting Guest

    I had a pretty positive sales experience as well. Unfortunately, I got
    a card in the mail that my salesman has since left the dealership and
    somebody else took his place. Haven't been back so no idea how the new
    guy will be.

    A new car every two years! Either you are a traveling salesman or you
    have more money than brains! :)


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Oct 9, 2006
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    Tom Guest

    No, Matt, my brains are still in place. :eek:)

    We had two cars for quite some time and both my wife and I worked so, we
    alternated. We traded cars after they were four years old and we spaced
    them so it was every two years. Four years and 50,000 miles was at the end
    of warrantees and, since they were American cars, they were worn out by
    then. Sad, but true. Someday our auto industry will wake up and make cars
    that aren't ugly as crap and built the same way with Union labor that
    doesn't give a damn about anything except their paycheck and benefits.
     
    Tom, Oct 10, 2006
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  17. taters2

    Matt Whiting Guest

    I've had the opposite experience. My American cars (mostly Chryslers -
    Acclaim, and two minivans) and trucks (Jeep Comanche and now Chevy
    K1500) have been much more durable than my foreign cars (VW Beetles and
    Honda Accord). All have went well over 100,000 miles (well, my Chevy
    truck is just shy of 100,000), with the Acclaim going to 143,000 before
    being totaled by a deer and my 96 minivan had 178,000 when totaled by a
    drunk driver.

    My Accord suffered catastrophic engine failure at 72,000 miles when the
    cam and rocker arms self-destructed. The two Beetles went over 100K,
    but needed valve work, oil leaks addressed, etc.

    The Accord had fewer teething pains when new than many of the American
    cars (except the Acclaim which was nearly flawless from the start), but
    began to systematically self-destruct at 60,000 miles. It needed
    struts, new rotors, new drums, new exhaust system, etc., all at 5 years
    and 60,000. My Acclaim had the original exhaust when it was totaled
    ager 9 years and 143K. I'd just replaced the exhaust on my minivan at
    10 years and 178,000 right before it was totaled.

    I'm hoping the Sonata holds up more like the Acclaim than the Accord!


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Oct 10, 2006
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    Mike Marlow Guest

    I understand the alternating car purchase thing - we do the same, but
    getting 4 years and/or 50,000 miles out of a car is crazy. I've driven GM
    products for over 30 years and have consistently gotten 200,000 out of them
    with no real problems. If you're only getting 50K out of a car, you're
    either buying some real low end junk, or you're way too hard on a car.
     
    Mike Marlow, Oct 10, 2006
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  20. taters2

    Old_Timer Guest

    Not necessarily true.
    A car dealer's lot is filled with low mileage, good condition, late
    model used cars that were traded in by the previous owners simply
    because they were afflicted with "New Car Fever"

    Old_Timer
     
    Old_Timer, Oct 10, 2006
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