Hyundai oil filters

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Matt Whiting, Feb 10, 2006.

  1. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    What are folks paying for Hyundai oil filters? I just bought the first
    one for my 06 Sonata (spin-on for the 4 cylinder) and the dealer price
    is $9.95. I think someone mentioned here getting a case mail order.
    What was the price for that?


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Feb 10, 2006
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  2. I'm using Fram filters from Aid Auto stores.

    Joel Willstein

    What are folks paying for Hyundai oil filters? I just bought the first
    one for my 06 Sonata (spin-on for the 4 cylinder) and the dealer price
    is $9.95. I think someone mentioned here getting a case mail order.
    What was the price for that?


    Matt
     
    Joel Willstein, Feb 10, 2006
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    Tunez Guest

    Matt, do a seach in Google for Hyundai Performance and you should, ( I did
    but can remeber where ) find a place that was selling them for $4.95 !!! a
    case ( of 12 ) was like $46.00 with free shipping it was within the 1st 4 or
    5 listings in Google

    Tunez
     
    Tunez, Feb 10, 2006
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  4. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Run, don't walk away from Fram filters. They are about the lowest
    quality oil filter currently on the market. There are a couple of web
    sites that show filters cut open and you can easily see how inferior
    Frams are these days. It is a shame because 20 years ago, they were one
    of the best available.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Feb 11, 2006
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  5. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    I found http://shop.hyundaiperformance.com/, but all I found there for
    filters were K&N brand that cost the same $10 as the OEM filter at the
    dealer.

    Can you post the URL for the site you purchased from?

    Thanks,
    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Feb 11, 2006
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  6. Agreed, Fram is junk! They're apparently the filter that prompted
    Hyundai's TSB about using aftermarket filter in the Elantra. Purolator,
    Wix and Napa filters are good quality and work well.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Feb 11, 2006
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  7. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    I Googled for half an hour last night and could not find genuine Hyundai
    filters for sale online. I found Bosch, something like NPN, and one
    grand called "genuine", but it didn't look in the picture even close to
    the real Hyundai filter I bought yesterday. Nice play on words there
    for folks searching for "genuine" Hyundai filters.

    I do see that Napa has filters for the Hyundai 4 cylinder, and their top
    of the line Gold filter is still only 2/3rds the cost of the Hyundai filter.

    I'm also surprised at how small the Hyundai filter is. I think this is
    the smallest filter I've had on a car since the 79 Chevette I owned. It
    is only slightly larger than the cartridge filter my 1200cc Kawasaki
    Voyager motorcycle used.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Feb 11, 2006
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  8. Believe it or not, every Hyundai vehicle sold in the US up until the new
    Sonata has used that same little filter. I've been using Purolator Pure
    One filters and they work fine.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Feb 11, 2006
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    Jim L Guest

    All my Subaru's use the same filter....all the 2.2s and 2.5s...
     
    Jim L, Feb 11, 2006
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    Tunez Guest

    Tunez, Feb 11, 2006
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  11. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    I found this site and many others like it, but these aren't Hyundai OEM
    filters, they are aftermarket filters that fit Hyundais. I was looking
    to buy the factory filters online. Thanks anyway.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Feb 11, 2006
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  12. Matt Whiting

    Eric G. Guest

    Try here: http://tinyurl.com/avqh3

    I think they are genuine.

    Eric
     
    Eric G., Feb 11, 2006
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    Bob Guest

    "Sorry, no parts found" For a 2006 V6 kinda kills their claim of "If you
    can drive it, we have it!"
     
    Bob, Feb 11, 2006
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  14. Gentlemen, I have heard this rant ad nauseum in various posts on this site.

    And when it comes to Fram's basic "orange" filter, you may have some valid
    points about some of what is inside.

    But the fact is that these filters, re-badged, are used by as many quick oil
    changes facilities as any brand used in the U.S. Surely, these
    organizations would not hang themselves out to dry if they were truly that
    bad. And carmakers would be quick to put it out a "warranty void" on this
    filter if they felt like these were a problem (yes, they can and will do
    that).

    To those who are used to using Fram (or even if you aren't), they have a
    filter that has actually out-tested one of the darling filters on this site,
    the Purolater "Pure One." It is called the Fram Tough Guard, it comes in a
    gray box, and costs anywhere from $5-7 instead of the orange's $3 or so.

    All the things you two say are lacking in Frams are in this filter, from the
    sythetic media, to the improved drain-back valve and screen, to the quality
    of the outer O-ring. This is the filter I use, and I use it because it is
    the best one out there, bar none.

    It also has the easy-grab end that the Purolater, Wix, and all the others
    don't, the only thing that allows me to remove filters on my car without
    renting Gumby for an hour.

    Fram is on the cutting edge with other filters being designed for different
    applications and specified uses (read also, higher price).

    As for the other brands, both I and my best friend (both of us in our 40's),
    have had only one oil-related failure in our long string of owned cars.
    Both were filter related. Mine was a Purolater, his was a Wix. We both now
    know better.

    You are entitled to your opinion, but please do not equate a brand that has
    survived for decades by making quality products with the equivalent of
    dumping sugar in one's gas tank.

    Tom Wenndt
     
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  15. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    I can't say they aren't the real McCoy, but they are quite different
    from the real Hyundai filter I have in my hand. A few of the obvious
    differences:

    1. These have paint sprayed on part of the base, but my Hyundai filter
    has a painted canister, but the base, including the crimped rim, is
    completely unpainted and appears to be made of stainless steel as it has
    no rust on it.

    2. This filter has a cross hair in a circle mark on it that isn't on my
    Hyundai filter.

    3. This filter appears to be black rather than blue.

    4. This filter has completely different writing on it. For example, it
    says to tighten 3/4 turn, whereas the real filter says 4/5 turn. Also,
    the writing on the Hyundai filter has a box around it, and this one doesn't.

    5. This filter has a logo that appears like two mountain peaks and seems
    to start with the letter F. The Hyundai filter has the Hyundai logo on
    top with the Kia logo underneath.

    6. The Hyundai filter has a plastic film glued over the business end of
    the filter to keep out contamination and this filter has none.

    Maybe this is just an older style, but never having seen an older
    Hyunday filter, I just can't say. This is the one that I found that I
    thought was using the brand name of "genuine" to lure the unsuspecting.
    Maybe I'm wrong, but this just doesn't seem to me to pass the smell test.


    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Feb 12, 2006
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  16. Matt Whiting

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Yes, I was referring to the basic Fram filter.

    I tend to not use anything used by a quick change place. That
    "endorsement" alone will keep me away.

    Where is that test? I've seen only a few filter tests of any substance,
    and although the Tough Guard is decidely better than the basic Fram,
    I've never seen it place more than than in the lower part of the upper
    third of the performance grid. Every test I've seen places the Mobil 1
    filter at the top by a long shot, but then it is also at the top
    price-wise by an equal margin.

    Baloney. It isn't even close to the Mobil 1 filter. It still uses a
    cardboard end cap last I knew.
    http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html

    I haven't changed mine yet, but my other cars have easy access for a
    filter wrench. If the Hyundai doesn't, that could be a problem.

    Such as?

    I'm well into my 40's also and have never had an oil filter related
    failure. I did use Fram's on my 89 Acclaim until someone told me that
    the lifter noise I heard at startup was due to the crappy anti-drainback
    valve. I switched to AC filters and the noise went away completely. I
    haven't used a Fram in the 15 years since then.

    I've used ACs as they are a good filter at a very good price, at least
    they were when Wal-Mart still sold them. Now that they are only
    available at GM dealers, the price isn't that great anymore, however, I
    was able to buy a case of them online for about $4 each and that will
    probably last me until I'm ready to retire the minivan.

    Yes, we are all entitled to our opinions. I don't equate using Fram
    filters to dumping sugar in the tank, but using the basic Fram filter
    isn't far above that. There are too many other good filters on the
    market for anyone to use a basic Fram. And for the price of a Tough
    Guard, you can get better alternatives.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Feb 12, 2006
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    Dan Guest

    I have to agree to disagree. 1997 Tiburon, 258,000 MILES, all on FRAM
    orange filters. The engine has NOT required ANY internal work.
     
    Dan, Feb 13, 2006
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  18. Good for you. That doesn't mean that they aren't built like crap, which
    has been well documented. Their filters recently prompted a TSB from
    Hyundai about problems with using aftermarket filters (they didn't name
    Fram in the TSB, but that's the problem filter they elude to). Ignore
    the evidence and do whatever you like but, but I won't use them in my car.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Feb 14, 2006
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