Hyundai Battery Problem?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Briggs, Jun 18, 2004.

  1. Briggs

    Briggs Guest

    Tonight my '02 XG350 wouldn't start. I heard the beginnings of it turning
    over, but then just fast clicking - a possible bad battery, which are the
    dealer's thoughts too. The problem is that I had a dead battery almost
    exactly a year ago. Is there some sort of issue with Hyundai batteries? I
    have the 4B warranty, so I'm not worried about the problem being fixed or
    getting a replacement rental (the joys of the 4B plan...), but it's still a
    drag to deal with the inconvenience of car towing, possible rental, etc.

    While I've been happy with the car, what with a power steering hose going
    bad a few months ago, and now another battery problem (I hope), it just
    gives my wife some "I told you so" ammunition to counter my JD Powers
    defense... If the problem is the battery, any ideas what might cause 2
    batteries to each fail within a year?

    Thanks,
    -B
     
    Briggs, Jun 18, 2004
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  2. Briggs

    Shane M Ryan Guest

    I think there is a problem with Hyundai batteries. My Tiburon and my Sante
    Fe have both had to have batteries replaced. Not even two years old yet.
     
    Shane M Ryan, Jun 18, 2004
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  3. In my experience, OEM batteries in general are nothing to write home
    about. Most of mine have lasted 3 years maximum.

    What kind of conditions do you drive in? Weather that's really hot or
    really cold is rough on batteries.

    Also, do you check the fluid levels? You still need to do it
    periodically. If you need to add water, make sure it's distilled or
    de-ionized. Tap water is bad for batteries.

    As long as your warranty covers it, I wouldn't worry about it. Once the
    warranty expires, replace it with a Die Hard or other premium battery
    and be done with it.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Jun 18, 2004
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  4. Briggs

    helikid Guest

    I'm in Texas, and batteries die within 2 years. After my battery is about 1
    year old, I'll buy a spare battery & secure it in the trunk.
     
    helikid, Jun 18, 2004
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  5. Briggs

    Robert Cohen Guest

    re: hyundai etal vehicle batteries

    well, over many years (i am now nearly 60 years old), i have
    observed/experienced:

    batteries tending to fail after an incident in which the battery requires
    re-charging, such as after leaving the radio or the dome light or the
    headlights/taillights on by mistake for a day/couple of days

    in other words:

    despite one's vehicle's battery showing on a meter that it is re-charged,

    the battery has actually been damaged

    therefore,

    buy the lowest-priced new battery that's available at a dealer, an auto parts
    store, or at walmart etal

    of course, i may be totally wrong in this (mis) perception



    replace the "guaranteed" battery with a new battery from the store asap (as
    soon as you can)



    because, IMHO, re-charged and/or "jumped" batteries are not dependable (enough)
    batteries
     
    Robert Cohen, Jun 18, 2004
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  6. Briggs

    hyundaitech Guest

    Hyundai has changed the replacement battery vendor from a year ago.
    Replacement batteries are now manufactured and distributed by Interstate.
    The OE batteries are still nothing to write home about though.
     
    hyundaitech, Jun 18, 2004
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  7. Briggs

    Briggs Guest

    I was just about to post the results which included your info.
    So yep it was the battery, but nope it was NOT under full warranty - it fell
    just 20 days over the year. The Hyundai factory rep would not authorize the
    company picking up the costs, so I'm out of pocket $60.00. Not a big deal,
    but surprising (to the service manager as well) that they wouldn't do this a
    good will gesture. Besides, in terms of the picking your battles, this
    wasn't big enough. I'd rather wait for a just out of warranty transmission
    or engine to blow up over...
    FYI - the ORIGINAL battery has a 3 year warranty, but the replacement
    battery (last May 29th for me), is only covered for a year, and then
    pro-rated after that. Hyundai picked up 25% of the replacement. The service
    manager told me there were a lot of problems with previous generation
    batteries, but that Interstate is much more reliable.
    So hyundaitech - when you say "nothing to write home about" - did you mean
    the Interstate?
    Thanks,
    -B
     
    Briggs, Jun 19, 2004
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  8. Fully discharging a batter does damage it and shorten it's life.
    However, a deep discharge that doesn't fully drain it may have little or
    no detrimental effect.

    I prefer to buy good quality batteries with a high duty cycle rating.
    They do last longer, provided that you don't abuse them.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Jun 19, 2004
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  9. Briggs

    hyundaitech Guest

    It's too early to tell for the Interstate. The company has a find
    reputation. It's the original battery from Korea that has issues.
     
    hyundaitech, Jun 21, 2004
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  10. My last Chevy Caprice battery lasted five years before the car was
    stolen. I lost my XG300L battery at one year and the new battery has
    been in two years. I had an opportunity to play around with an
    ammeter that was clamp on. At about 1100 RPM, the alternator is
    cranking out a full 135 Amps which is about neutral current on the
    battery when your in a hot weather, night time driving situation.
    When I dropped the car back to idle, ~700 RPM, the battery was
    discharging at about 10-15 Amps and the Generator was putting out
    about 110 Amps. Since the two don't add up correctly, I put a
    voltmeter on the battery and, at idle, the voltage drops a volt
    between idle and alternator max output at 1100 RPM.

    The question that came to mind was what would happen after a couple of
    hours of driving at night. According to my numbers, every time you
    went into idle you would discharge the battery some and every time you
    were back to cruise, there wasn't enough alternator left to charge the
    battery--since the current in was zero. I believe I overlooked the
    possibility that the battery may reach an equilibrium someplace
    between the full charge OFF voltage and partially discharged OFF
    voltage. When the battery becomes partially discharged, apparently
    the voltage drop is enough to reduce the current draw and allow enough
    left over to keep the battery at enough, whatever level of charge that
    is.

    It looks like a rather good case of engineering for a road driver but
    a very bad situation for a slow, in-town driver like my wife. It
    looks that way. But when I'm gone, she doesn't touch her Saturn and
    the Hyundai always starts. Which proves the guys in Hyundai design
    have it cut to the edge but it still works. And that's about the best
    engineering compliment you can give.

    Fred, W8OY
     
    Prefered Customer, Jun 26, 2004
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  11. Briggs

    Rob & Shel Guest

    My partner's Excel needed a new battery every 2 years, & she used that car
    for as a town runabout.

    It'll be interesting to see if the battery has longer life, now, as the car
    is being used by her daughter who would be doing longer & higher speed
    driving.

    Rob
     
    Rob & Shel, Jun 28, 2004
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