head gasket

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Tha Whiteness, Nov 2, 2006.

  1. I have a 2000 accent with a 1.5liter engine. recently it blew a head
    gasket and i have the part but ive been looking everywhere to find the
    bolts to take the head off without removing EVERYTHING else, if anyone
    has any insight...
     
    Tha Whiteness, Nov 2, 2006
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  2. Tha Whiteness

    hyundaitech Guest

    The head bolts are inside the valve cover. You'll still need to take the
    timing belt off, and you'll need to unbolt the exhaust manifold from the
    head or the pipe.

    What are your symptoms? On nearly every Hyundai I've seen that had a
    significant head gasket problem, the head was so badly warped that it was
    best used as a paperweight or bookend. You should definitely take things
    far enough apart to check head flatness.
     
    hyundaitech, Nov 2, 2006
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  3. yea, actually it was a dealership that diagnosed it, and im doing the
    work. is it possible once i have it off i can set it on a towel or
    something or rag to see flatness or is there some more precise way, i
    noticed once i took the valve cover off it was all enclosed and all
    that was there was the valves, would i have to get in between the
    valves at all. and hte exhaust manifold is behind the head and valve
    cover? and some of hte symptoms were puddle of oil on top of the
    transmission, and when i start the car there is knocking, but i dont
    drive it at all right now
     
    Tha Whiteness, Nov 2, 2006
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  4. Take it to a machine shop where they can use a straight edge or flat surface
    plate and an indicator. The use of fabric softeners tends to make the
    fluffy bath towels less accurate.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Nov 3, 2006
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  5. Tha Whiteness

    Mike Marlow Guest

    No offense, but you might want to consider having this work done by a shop.
    Your questions indicate a certain unfamiliarity with the task at hand and
    it's not a simply remove and replace job. You are going to get into such
    things as torquing the head back down, timing the valve train, etc. If you
    have to ask where the head bolts are and where the exhaust manifold is, you
    are probably not really ready for this job.

    The symptoms you describe bother me some. A puddle of oil and a knocking
    when first started are somewhat contradictory symptoms. The knocking
    implies a rod problem. If so, you are in for a lot more work than replacing
    a head. Did the dealership hear the knocking? Is the word "knocking"
    perhaps a bad way of describing it?
     
    Mike Marlow, Nov 3, 2006
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  6. actually to tell you the truth you guys are probably right about the
    checking if hte head is warped, i got a couple friends that are
    mechanics that probably could check it out for me, as far as the
    symptoms, yea the knocking sound is there, it sounds more like clicking
    from inside the car and its not as strong when you are listening under
    the hood. there was one place where i was looking where i seen a gap
    and then i kinda connected it with the puddle of oil where the
    transmission, and yes if it sounds like im a beginner at this stuff its
    because i am...thank you very much for all of hte help is there any
    special numbers for putting the head back on like how much torque for
    each bolt, etc...
     
    Tha Whiteness, Nov 3, 2006
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  7. Tha Whiteness

    Mike Marlow Guest

    I'm feeling a little bad about sounding discouraging, but I really want to
    tell you that a head job is not a good place to begin your DIY career. To
    be honest - your troubleshooting skills seem to require a bit of work - as
    would be expected when you are just starting out.

    You would be doing yourself a big favor by taking the car to someone you
    trust and getting that person to allow you to hang around and learn from the
    work he performs. It's really not a matter of unbolting this and bolting on
    that with a few magic numbers thrown in for good measure. It's certainly
    not the kind of thing that you want to jump into as a beginner and finding
    yourself sitting at your computer screen asking every question in the world
    as you try to plow your way through the job. Things will go wrong for you
    this way.

    If you're hell bent on taking this on yourself, then my best advice is for
    you to go to the local auto parts store and get yourself a Haynes or a
    Chilton's manual. You'll find all of the information you need in them. If
    you read them and find yourself asking people what the books mean by this
    and what they mean by that, then you'd better consider that a clue that
    someone else needs to do the repairs for you.

    Best of luck.
     
    Mike Marlow, Nov 3, 2006
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    Tha Whiteness, Nov 4, 2006
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  9. well its not really that discouraging to me at least...i have the
    chilton manual and im kind of going through it for the views and
    everything, i been just asking a few questions cuz i couldnt seem to
    find what i was looking for, but im gona look through that part a
    little more thoroughly, and i do appreciate the feedback and
    everything, ima computer guy by trade so i have the troubleshooting
    skills, but things are a bit different in cars so.....once again thank
    you
     
    Tha Whiteness, Nov 4, 2006
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  10. Better yet, go to www.hmaservice.com and check out the factory repair
    manual. Print out the pertinent pages and you're good to go, more or less.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Nov 4, 2006
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  11. Tha Whiteness

    hyundaitech Guest

    If watching someone else do the repairs doesn't work out, perhaps you can
    have a mentor with you who's done this sort of repair previously.

    I think, like Brian and Mike, I generally encourage people to do as much
    of their own work as they can, but I'm concerned that if you try to do
    this on your own, you might end up with more trouble and expense than if
    you pay someone to do it. I still like the mentor idea, though. Everyone
    must start somewhere.
     
    hyundaitech, Nov 4, 2006
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  12. Tha Whiteness

    Mike Marlow Guest

    D'OH!!!! No kiddin'. You'd think I'd been around here long enough to make
    that suggestion, wouldn't you? Guess it gets to be habit recommending the
    other manuals in other newsgroups. Thanks for straightening me out on that
    one Brian.
     
    Mike Marlow, Nov 4, 2006
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  13. wow, i bought a chilton manual they didnt have it for a 2000 so i got a
    1998 figuring the engine wont be a whole lot different, but that
    website totally beats that manual and greatly appreciated, gives me
    exactly what i was lookin for. i think i might take it off myself but
    take it to a machine shop and have them check if it meets the
    measurements of what its supposed to via the factory manual. do any of
    you know of factory manuals for other makes such as chevy for example
    or if they publish them like hyundai does (have a friend that was
    looking for one for his truck) thank you
     
    Tha Whiteness, Nov 7, 2006
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  14. Tha Whiteness

    hyundaitech Guest

    I don't know of any others that have free access online. You should be
    able to purchase paper copies from the dealer or order based on
    information in the owner's manual, but it'll cost you.
     
    hyundaitech, Nov 7, 2006
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