Fram aftermarket Sonata Oil Filter - Failure!

Discussion in 'Hyundai Sonata' started by Bob, Nov 10, 2007.

  1. Bob

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Gee, Bob, that one went WAY over your head. You need to get your
    sarcasm detector fixed! :)

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Nov 15, 2007
    #41
  2. Bob

    Matt Whiting Guest

    Wow, three degrees and still can't spell! :)

    What about high detergent filters causes you to question the value of an
    oil filter?

    Where was the medical question?

    True, but a lot can be gleaned by inspection if you know what you are
    looking for.

    True, again, but there is no single set of requirements for either oil
    or oil filters. Do you want your oil to last 3,000 miles or 10,000
    miles? Ditto the filter? I personally change my oil at 5,000 miles
    when under warranty and 10,000 miles when out of warranty. The former
    is almost certainly overkill for Mobil 1, but I don't want to risk a
    warranty hassle. And I don't want to have to worry if I can't get to an
    oil change for another 1,000 miles or so. If I was using an oil that
    met just the minimum requirements to last 3,000 miles without engine
    damage, then I have absolutely no margin for running to 4,000
    occasionally. I personally like large margins for things like oil for
    the occasional extreme conditions my car may encounter.

    Matt
     
    Matt Whiting, Nov 15, 2007
    #42
  3. Bob

    Bob Guest

    With the twist in the thread that occurred earlier, one just can't
    tell......
     
    Bob, Nov 16, 2007
    #43
  4. Bob

    Rob Smith Guest

    You might want to check out a friend of mine's web site. He did a fairly
    exhaustive test of a number of OEM and aftermarket oil filters. The work
    that Russ did is definitely worth checking out.

    http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html
     
    Rob Smith, Dec 6, 2007
    #44
  5. Bob

    Bob Guest

    Two phone calls later, I finally received the "Product Evaluation Form" form
    in the mail. I get to pay to "ship the package in such a way that you are
    able to track it". I called back, and asked if they could send me a prepaid
    shipping label, and their customer service rep tols me that I am responsible
    for paying for shipping it, and that they do not refund shipping. Lets
    see.... $5.00 shipping a $6.00 filter back so I can help them improve their
    product. I could see doing this if it damaged my car. This is going to
    happen to others, as there is nothing unusual about my car.

    Maybe I'll just send the form back with the pictures of the mess, and the
    flat O rings to honeywell corporate.

    I get to say it with a justifiable reason: Fram makes substandard filters,
    does NOT stand behind them, and does not take the steps necessary to address
    the problem.
     
    Bob, Dec 9, 2007
    #45
  6. Wow, what a cheap outfit. If they truly wanted to see you problem, they'd
    pony up the few bucks for shipping. I'd be tempted to send it back and put
    in a clam for a new filter and cost of cleaning up the car and driveway.
    Take photos.
     
    Edwin Pawlowski, Dec 10, 2007
    #46
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    Steve R. Guest

    Steve R., Dec 14, 2007
    #47
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