Elantra Temp Gage: Lack Of

Discussion in 'Hyundai Elantra / Lantra' started by Bob, Jul 21, 2010.

  1. Bob

    Bob Guest

    Hi,

    For a 2010 Elantra.

    Son's Elantra apparfently doesn't have a temp gage, just an idiot light.

    Incredibly dumb any car without an actual analog temp. gage.

    Anyway, if it ever does go off, obviously you want to pull over.

    But, realistically, could you (safely) go, e.g., another 50 miles, or...?

    What actually happens if you go "too far" after becoming lit ?

    etc. ?

    Much thanks,
    Bob
     
    Bob, Jul 21, 2010
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  2. Bob

    Ed Pawlowski Guest

    No one can say for certain how far you can go. It depends on the reason for
    the overheating. It the thermostat is stuck partly open causing extremely
    hot running, you may very well be able to travel a good distance with no
    damage. If a hose breaks and you lose all coolant, you'd trash the engine
    in just a few miles.

    I agree that a gauge is better, but 80% (maybe more) of drivers have no idea
    what is safe and what is not safe looking at the actual temperature of the
    coolant.

    Old story, I don't know if it is true, but certainly possible. Back in the
    50's a woman was complaining fuel mileage on her car was terrible. She went
    back to the dealer and everything checked OK. The mechanic suggested he
    rake a ride with her to assess driving habits. Woman got into the car,
    pulled out the choke (remember them?) and hung her pocket book on it.
    Started the car and proceeded to drive away.
     
    Ed Pawlowski, Jul 22, 2010
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  3. From what I hear, most of the ones with dials are, for all intents and
    purposes, "Dummy Dials" - they'll automatically rise to a preset
    "all's OK" position once the thermostat opens, sit there (regardless
    of minor variations), and rise straight to the top once it passes an
    overheating threshold. It might as well be a dummy light, at that
    point.
     
    Matthew Fedder, Jul 22, 2010
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    GVGiant44 Guest

    Would have to agree with this assessment. In fact, if I had my
    choice, I would turn the coolant gauge into a (idiot) light, and add a
    gauge back for the charging system, like there used to be. Okay, the
    current charging system light is supposed to come on if the alternator
    fails or you lose the alternator belt (in the rare vehicle where it
    isn't a composite serpentine belt), and usually does.

    But I have trashed two batteries on vehicles where the voltage
    regulator (usually built into the alternator) failed, and gave me a
    full, full charge. A gauge would have shown that instantly. I was
    only lucky I started smelling something really foul inside the car,
    and pulled it off to the side of the road to check. It was cooking
    battery acid, and it was close to blowing the top off the battery. I
    had to get both a battery and an alternator each time.

    BTW, another good idiot light is an oil level light, that checks your
    oil level, especially when you start the car. The light in the
    vehicles I've had it in shines yellow, like the check engine light.
    But it kept me on my toes every bit as much as the red oil pressure
    light does (and should).

    BTW #2, good to be back in the group, after my phone company, sold for
    about the seventeenth time, shut down the usenet subscriptions. I had
    to access this via Google groups.

    Rev. Thomas Wenndt
     
    GVGiant44, Jul 24, 2010
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    Jay-T Guest

    BTW #2, good to be back in the group, after my phone company, sold for
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    to access this via Google groups.

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    Jay-T, Jul 24, 2010
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    Hal Guest

    Incredibly dumb any car without an actual analog temp. gage.

    Agreed. Stupid, and cheap. I'd never buy a car without a real actual
    temp gauge. It's bad enough most cars now have idiot lights for oil
    pressure as well. If the OP lamp comes on you're going to be in even
    more trouble than the light for temperature. And you get no warning of
    impending trouble with either system if all you have is a
    light.....either the light is on, or off.
    Idiot lights are like bleeding wounds. By the time that light comes
    on, you're already up the creek without a paddle. Best bet is to pull
    over immediately lest you blow the head gasket. Go another 50
    miles...you're kidding, right?

    It's been my experience that your engine should warm up to the same
    point on the temp gauge every single time and never, ever deviate from
    that point. If it does, you likely have a problem. But having the temp
    needle slowly rise gives you a little more time to assess what is
    happening and look for symptoms(do I smell coolant? Does it get better
    if I switch off the AC and turn on the heat?, etc.) All of that is for
    bunk if all you get is a warning lamp. It's too late once that comes
    on. Just pull over and stop.

    Chris
     
    Hal, Jul 24, 2010
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    hyundaitech Guest

    My advice-- just don't do it. The number one engine repair I do to
    the 2.0 Beta engine is cylinder head replacement due to excessive
    warpage from severe overheating. This is a very good engine under
    normal use, but the head doesn't take overheating well at all.
     
    hyundaitech, Aug 6, 2010
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