Drop in mileage?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Fantine, Jul 26, 2008.

  1. Fantine

    Fantine Guest

    I posted about a week ago, but I didn't get any responses. Let me try
    again and hopefully, somebody who knows more about cars than I do can
    help me.

    I have a 07 Hyundai Elantra SE with auto transmission. Since I bought
    it, the car has consistently gotten about 27-28 mpg for mostly city
    mileage. However, recently, with the same driving, it's dropped to
    about 25 or below. This coincided with a yellow indicator lamp that,
    according to the dealer, produced two codes: P0304 (intermittent
    misfire in cylinder #4 spark plug) and P0442 (small evaporative
    leak). The dealer replaced the spark plug and tightened the gas tank
    cap, but, the mileage hasn't improved and I've driven sufficient miles
    to see a difference. Anybody know whether the first code wasn't
    produced addressed by the replacement of the spark plug and that's why
    the mileage hasn't improved? I haven't noticed any performance
    difference in terms of smoothness of acceleration or power.
     
    Fantine, Jul 26, 2008
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  2. Fantine

    Charles Guest

    Are you using the A/C more often?

    Charles
     
    Charles, Jul 27, 2008
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  3. Fantine

    Fantine Guest

    No more than I did last summer, and I didn't see the drop in mileage
    then.
     
    Fantine, Jul 27, 2008
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  4. Fantine

    Victek Guest

    I posted about a week ago, but I didn't get any responses. Let me try
    I would check the obvious first, meaning take the car back to the dealer and
    have the plug checked again - sparkplug wires too. It sounds like the
    mileage dropped off abruptly, but I would still check tires/pressure, air
    filter, oil (is it clean?) and wheel alignment.
     
    Victek, Jul 27, 2008
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  5. Fantine

    Fantine Guest

    Oil was changed when the spark plug was "fixed," and the tire pressure
    is OK. I also am going to another gas station now; I was buying at
    the cheapest name brand I could find, but maybe there was a reason the
    case was so cheap. So, back to the dealer we go. Are all spark plugs
    the same, BTW, or are there better brands or types? (You can see I
    know next to nothing about cars.) Thanks.
     
    Fantine, Jul 27, 2008
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  6. Fantine

    frijoli Guest

    Fantine wrote:
    Are all spark plugs
    There is definitely a difference in gas at different stations but it
    usually isn't much in regards to fuels mileage.
    There are times when NEW plugs are not necessarily working plugs! Stick
    with factory plugs and you will be fine.

    Clay

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    frijoli, Jul 27, 2008
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  7. Fantine

    Fantine Guest

    I should be able to get the car to the dealer tomorrow, so hopefully,
    they'll be able to say what's going on. Frustrating to have gas
    mileage go south on a car that has under 10,000 miles on it.
     
    Fantine, Jul 27, 2008
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  8. Fantine

    jim Guest

    Always the possibility that you were getting gas without Ethanol previously
    and you are now getting it with ethanol. ethanol cuts down the milage.

    Jim

    Oil was changed when the spark plug was "fixed," and the tire pressure
    is OK. I also am going to another gas station now; I was buying at
    the cheapest name brand I could find, but maybe there was a reason the
    case was so cheap. So, back to the dealer we go. Are all spark plugs
    the same, BTW, or are there better brands or types? (You can see I
    know next to nothing about cars.) Thanks.
     
    jim, Jul 27, 2008
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  9. Fantine

    hyundaitech Guest

    Responded in your other thread before I read this one.

    If you haven't reset your fuel economy reading, you may want to do tha
    first. If it hasn't been reset since the problem, then idling time in th
    shop and data from when the problem was occurring are still included.

    The conditions that would cause a P0304 (misfire on cylinder #4) wil
    easily cause a significant decrease in fuel economy if they continue. Th
    conditions that cause a P0442, on the other hand, will only cause a ver
    small, if even noticeable, loss in fuel economy. P0442 indicates tha
    there's a small fuel vapor leak.

    I'm not saying there's nothing wrong in your, but in the vast majority o
    cases where people complain about fuel economy, I can find nothing wron
    with the vehicle.

    It's also safe to presume that if your check engine lamp hasn't come bac
    on, that the misfire and vapor leak have been fixed
     
    hyundaitech, Jul 27, 2008
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  10. Fantine

    Fantine Guest

    I'm pretty sure that all the gas that is sold in my area is E-10, so
    that shouldn't be the difference.
     
    Fantine, Jul 27, 2008
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  11. Fantine

    Fantine Guest

    I did re-set the economy when I left the dealership. In fact, in the
    weeks since the problem occurred, I've done more highway driving than
    I usually do, so if anything, I probably should be getting better
    mileage than before, but that's not the case. And I'm the proverbial
    LOL (little old lady) driver who doesn't gun the engine and
    accelerates gently.

    I was afraid that you were going to say that if the check engine lamp
    was off, the misfire was fixed. I have an appointment about five
    minutes from the dealership tomorrow, so I might as well go there and
    ask them to check the car out. Thanks for your help, and I'll report
    back.
     
    Fantine, Jul 27, 2008
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  12. Fantine

    Bob Bailin Guest

    One more thing to check is the front brakes which might be dragging.
    A simple way to check this is to remove the front wheel covers when
    the car is cold and then drive the car for about three to five miles,
    preferably on the highway with as few stops as possible. Touch
    each front wheel and center hub where the axle end is. Both should
    be no more than slightly warmer than air temp, and both sides should
    be at the same temp. If either side is hot to the touch, then the brakes
    are dragging on that side, not enough to pull the car to that side or
    to make it feel sluggish, but enough to affect gas mileage.

    The rear brakes could be doing the same, but it's unlikely with a
    car that new.

    Bob
     
    Bob Bailin, Jul 28, 2008
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