Don't take your car to Mr. Transmission

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Andrew, Nov 12, 2005.

  1. And according to Spy Sweeper, when you go to the site he posted and
    click on a thread spy ware is installed on your computer unless you
    have a program that checks in real time, like Spy Sweeper, and warns
    you. Go there with great caution.
     
    Centella Cajon, Nov 16, 2005
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  2. Andrew

    Andrew Guest

    Which "thread" (link) installs Spyware? The only external links are
    mrtransmission.com, ripoffreport.com, and complaints.com.
     
    Andrew, Nov 16, 2005
    #22
  3. This blanket indictment of AAMCO is just as wrong and unfair as Andrew's
    treatment of Mr. Transmission. As I wrote above:

    "I've had work done by a local AAMCO guy who's been completely
    trustworthy. The rebuild they did on my Excel transmission lasted 115K
    miles, which is impressive when you consider that the orignal only
    lasted 64K. He's even told me when he didn't think that work was worth
    it on another car. He's good, he cares about his customers and the
    quality of the work his people turn out. These are the reasons that he's
    been in business at the same location for 20-something years. I refer
    people to him all the time.

    OTOH, I've heard horror stories about other AAMCO stores. It's not the
    name on the building, it's the guys that work there that count."

    My local AAMCO guy is as good as gold. It's a shame that yours isn't,
    but that's the fault of the personnel.

    I once worked for a guy in the muffler biz and I watched him train and
    incentivise his employees to rip off customers (he called it "selling
    jobs"). Between his dishonesty and his cocaine habit, he didn't last
    long. Sales training can be beneficial in that in can help technicians
    to explain work to customers in a manner they can understand, but taken
    to an extreme (as above), it's wrong. Again, it's the people that make
    the difference and that's true no matter what the name of the business is.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Nov 16, 2005
    #23
  4. Andrew

    Andrew Guest

    "Brian Nystrom" wrote in message
    It is obvious that you do not know how good franchises operate. They operate
    on their "good name" for business and good franchise operators make sure
    that bad apples are promptly removed. This is not the case of Mr.
    Transmission as some owners of franchises are not very happy campers. If you
    get past the intial canned hype at
    http://www.business-opportunities.b...-leadership-in-the-automotive-repair-industry
    or http://tinyurl.com/cpmo6 if your news reader tears apart the link.

    You will see such statements as:

    Shane said on October 27th, 2004 at 10:43 pm:
    Just like Matt's report on RipOffReport, I did my research. Just like Matt,
    I worked at a shop for almost 20 years ? the work itself I could do with my
    eyes closed. I believed I could make money with Mr. Transmission. Guess
    what? NOT A DIME! Guess what else? I FINANCED THE $150,000 INITIAL
    INVESTMENT WITH A SECOND MORTGAGE!! UNLIKE Matt, this IS going to court. I
    want EVERY PENNY I put into this AND damages!
    I don't know about the work of other franchises, but DO NOT BUY INTO THIS
    SCAM, you will NEVER MAKE MONEY!

    Better yet, go to
    http://www.ripoffreport.com/results...mit2=Search!&q4=&q6=&q3=&q2=&q7=&searchtype=0
    or http://tinyurl.com/7mx2q and read more about the people and franchise
    owners who have gotten ripped off by Mr. Transmission.

    Mr. Transmission attempted to get my website off the net by use of lawyers
    and I did not budge. It did not work.

    As for arbitration... who do you think decides which arbitrator to use? Not
    me... As you are clueless and need a steer, there are two parties involved
    in this dispute and one of them is me. I don't chose the place that
    arbitrates so who do you think will chose?

    I'll type out the scenario very slow to you so you can understand. My
    transmission breaks and it needs replacing. I go to Mr. Transmission and pay
    over $3000 to have this done. I pick up my car a week later and it
    breaksdown due to the transmission light going on and transmission fluid
    venting out. I tow the car back and they keep it a few more weeks. They do
    such things as replacing an ECT sensor, whose only purpose is to make the
    dash temp gauge work. In addition they remove my Performance Control Module
    (PCM), do a compression check on my engine and many other things during
    those two weeks. They tell me they found the problem... wiring from another
    ECT to my PCM. They take the vehicle to another shop and have this replaced
    at my expense. I pick up the vehicle and what do you think happens? The
    transmission light goes on and my transmission vents fluid. Of course my
    dash temp, which was working before, is not working at this time.

    I tow it back to the shop and they state that I'm out of luck because it is
    my engine and wiring which is at fault. I take it to the dealership. They
    reroute my transmission cooler back to the stock cooler. They replace a
    damaged/ incorrect dipstick in my transmission. They drain 5 quarts of
    excess transmission fluid from my vehicle due to the damaged/incorrect
    dipstick. They clean transmission fluid out of my MAP sensor.

    Guess what... No more transmission problems after that. So what do you think
    was causing the transmission problems after getting it replaced? Very
    obvious when you look to see what the dealer did to correct the problem.
     
    Andrew, Nov 16, 2005
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  5. Andrew

    Andrew Guest

    After this experience, I'm going to avoid all chains as I'm getting the
    picture of franchise owners hungry to get a return on their investments. It
    is better to deal with the small folks who make a living off of word of
    mouth or a dealership.

    Mr. Transmission takes the cake though in transmission repairs. They state a
    nationwide warranty on their website but when you look at their locations,
    they are only located in 21 states in America. They also state they have the
    best warranty in the business but I do not see them offering a lifetime
    warranty like Aamco does.
     
    Andrew, Nov 16, 2005
    #25
  6. I know EXACTLY how a franchise operates, as I worked for a franchise
    company at one point.
    That's up to the main office. The degree to which they can do that also
    varies with the contract they have with their franchisees. There is no
    "standard" contract for all franchise businesses.
    That can be said for virtually ANY franchise. Granted, there are some
    that are basically rip-offs, but there are also a lot of people who can
    manage to lose money no matter what business they're in. It's easy to
    blame the head office for poor business sense. In some cases it's
    justified, but in most it's not.
    Good for you. What did they do, send you a letter?
    If it's voluntary arbitration, you have a say as to who the arbitrator
    is. If they're trying to push the mandatory arbitraton on you, I don't
    blame you for resisting.

    <unnecessary explanation snipped>

    I understand your situation and I have said that I completely agree with
    your actions against the local store. Is that plain enough for YOU to
    understand? What I disagree with is your trashing of the entire company
    for the actions of ONE store. Got it???

    If you got a bad cup of coffee at a Dunkin Donuts, would you put up a
    website called dunkindonutscoffeesucks.com?
     
    Brian Nystrom, Nov 19, 2005
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  7. A lot of franchise stores ARE small folks. My local AAMCO store is a
    three man operation and the same three guys have been there for at least
    10 years. They work hard, do good work and charge fair prices. His
    reputation is flawless and deservedly so. He gets a lot of business via
    word of mouth. The fact that he's a franchise store doesn't change that.

    It's amazing that you try to tell me that I don't understand the
    franchise business, but you make statements like this. Contrary to your
    belief, there is nothing inherently evil about franchising. What do you
    think most gas stations are? Most coffee and donut shops? Most
    restaurants? Most convenience stores? The list is endless. We all deal
    with franchise stores all the time and in most cases, they're fine. As
    with any industry, there are inevitably bad apples, but they're the
    exception, not the rule.
    Do they offer the same warranty through all their stores? If so, that's
    technically "nationwide". The fact that they don't have stores in all 50
    states is irrelevent. Perhaps they have plans to get there, but they
    can't force people to open stores.
    Then you have an issue. Since you're already on a crusade, why don't you
    see if you can get the FTC to force them to remove that claim?
     
    Brian Nystrom, Nov 19, 2005
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  8. My 2 cents worth.. when we see ads on tv or in magazines, etc, those
    ads don't say, "Some of our locations are the best in the nation,"
    etc. They say, either overtly or by implication, that the entire
    chain of outlets/stores/franchise facilities is the best at this
    or that service.

    I'd sue. And I think it's appropriate to advice the public, based
    on your experiences, that their ads proved false in your case and
    that people should stay away from that company for that reason.

    "Crusade?" Welllllll..... :O)

    Jordan S.
     
    Jordan Samuels, Nov 19, 2005
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  9. Andrew

    Andrew Guest

    I guess you missed the part about providing great customer service.
    Bad business = Bad publicity. Any decent main franchise office goes by that
    adage. If they don't then they are a fly by night outfit.
    If you take a deep look into you will see. This chain states they have a
    nationwide warranty but they are located in only in 21 states in America.
    Look at their website for locations. "Best warranty in the business"? Aamco
    offers a life-time warranty and Mr. Transmission does not.
    If you looked at the website you would have seen the letter by their legal
    staff..
    It is mandatory arbitration by the American Arbitration Association per the
    "contract". They have already picked the deciding party. This is in the fine
    print of every Mr. Transmission service agreement. You need bright light and
    a magnifying glass to read it though.

    The NAF (National Arbitration Forum) handled collection disputes for the
    bank First USA. First USA paid NAF several million dollars as a result of
    the contract, and First USA won 99.6% of the cases out of 50,000 total.
    From Reynolds Holding, Private Justice: Can Public Count On fair
    Arbitration? Financial Ties To Corporations Are Conflict Of Interest,
    Critics say, October 8, 2001.

    The AAA ( American Arbitration Association) has held shares in AT&T, Bank of
    America, Aetna, Cigna Corp., General Electric - all of which the AAA has
    resolved disputes for. General Electric and Sprint corporate officers have
    sat on the AAA board. In 2000, the AAA received 2.1 million dollars in
    membership fees from GE Industrial Systems, Aetna, and other corporate
    interests.

    This is conflict of interest but it does not seem to apply.

    The franchise head office was involved for a short time during my
    discussions with the local shop. All they did is back the local shop.
    A cup of coffee does not cost $3000 + and it does not cost close to another
    $2000 to get you a good cup of coffee.

    You failed to miss the point. Why was my car transmission finally working
    correctly when the dealer 1). Pulled off the aftermarket cooler and rerouted
    it to the stock cooler? 2). Replaced a damaged/incorrect dipstick out of my
    transmission? 3). Drained 5 quarts of excess transmission fluid from my
    system? It is very obvious the shop screwed up but the head office refuses
    to step in and take care of business. That is bad business.
     
    Andrew, Nov 19, 2005
    #29
  10. First off, I NEVER said that you shouldn't pursue your case against the
    local store. How many times do I have to reiterate that before it sinks in?

    While it's true that I named all small ticket franchises, there are
    plenty of other big ticket franhises out there, too.
    I hadn't looked at it from that angle and you make a good point. In
    retrospect, I guess "nationwide warranty" is misleading if you can't
    take advantage of it.
    Yeah, I think of all the honest people employed at Mr. Transmission
    stores who are potentially being hurt by your "nationwide" smear
    campaign. How would you feel if people in another store with a good
    reputation lose their jobs because of you?

    While altruism is a wonderful thing, let's be real shall we? What does
    it cost you monthy for hosting fees, $10, maybe $20 at the outside?
    You PAID for search engine placement? Whatever, it's your money to waste.
    What in the world are you babbling about? Burt Reynolds? Running?
    Proving? Have you completely lost it or something?

    Yes, I enjoy cycling, kayaking and ice climbing. Add X/C skiing and a
    bit of woodworking to the mix, too. What's your point? It beats sitting
    on the couch and getting old. Perhaps if you had an interest other than
    bashing Mr. Transmission, you'd be better off.

    Since you did a bit of searching around about me, you should have
    noticed that I spend a lot of time helping other people with similar
    interests to be more successful at them. I do that at my own cost, but
    that's not the point. People helped me when I needed it and now I pass
    along what I've learned to others. It's a heck of a lot more positive
    way to live than spending one's time trashing a transmission repair company.
     
    Brian Nystrom, Nov 22, 2005
    #30
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