Class Action Suit

I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for my
purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.

I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
says.

I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
there.

If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
General.

The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.

If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this situation.

Norm

 

Its probably like the AWD in the Chevy Equinox, if it detects torque
slippage from the front wheels, it delievers more power to the rear.

Stop whining and wanting to sue everyone, thats what causes prices to go up.

 

Bait and Switch? or Fraud?

 

Why was part-time 4WD a major reason?

The web site has the 2006 model now, but it clearly suggests that the
4WD is either "mechanical full-time" or "electronic automatic."

I'd consider it an error in the brochure. What evidence of malice do
you have?

Victimized? Grow up.

Again, what evidence do you have of either fraud or conspiracy? Do you
know what these words even mean?

And what remedy do you want? It seems you got an even better system
than what you thought you were getting so where are the damages to you?
When I bought my Jeep Comanche many moons ago, Jeep offered, as I
recall, three different 4WD/AWD systems. The offered a completely
manual system (other than not having manual hubs to lock), which I
bought. A full-time system and a full-time system with a torque sensing
center differential. The manual/part-time system was the least capable
and least expense of them all. It seems to me that you got more rather
than less.

Matt

 

What are you so wound up about? Part-time 4WD systems are just plain
stupid anyway. You drag the extra hardware around 99.9% of the time and
get no benefit from it other than during the .1% of the time that you
actually use it. In the meantime, you waste fuel hauling the extra
weight. At least with an AWD system you get some minimal benefit all of
the time.

Exactly HOW have you been "victimized"? What damages have you incurred?
It sounds to me like you got a better system than you thought you had.

Oh, brother! Haven't you got anything better to do than cook up bogus
conspiracy theories?

Yeah, I'm sure they'll jump all over this evil plot...

Get a life!

 

I am continually amazed that people are somehow smart enough to access
Usenet Newsgroups yet they lack the native intelligence to understand what
they are reading in those groups.

Federal Law, specifically 15 U.S.C. 1231 et seq., requires the so called
window sticker to be affixed to automobiles at the port of entry. This
sticker lists the standard and optional features of the vehicle.

When the ACTUAL features differ from what is listed that is FRAUD.

I'm sorry if you are too stupid to understand this simple concept.

There is not much more I can do to explain it to you. Please go to your
local library and ask the librarian for assistance.

I have retained private counsel and fully intend to sue, but feel confident
that at least one of the 50 States' AGs will bring a cause of action.

Norm

 

You may want to take your own advice and visit your library, find a
dictionary and look up "fraud" before you embarrass yourself further in
public. Making a mistake doesn't constitute fraud. And proving that
this simply wasn't a mistake on Hyundai's part will be very difficult.


Matt

 

Wow, stupidity of people like you cause lawyers to get rich and everyone
else to pay more. Seems people like you cause most of the problems. Not
mistakes in brochures.



This is not a serious enough offense to make anyone really see it your way
except your lawyer who will get a pretty penny either way.

 

HAHAHAHA Get a job and quit trying to get something for free !!!!!

 

it took you this long to notice there no 4x4 lever or switch?

 

yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnn get over it and move on....

 

go pay another 20K and get yerself a REAL 4WD then and quit yer bitching...
asshole..;-)

 

Sounds like a legal Troll trying to get more people so he can say he
has a crowd of folks too stupid to understand the issue. His deired
en is to show we are soooo stupid that big daddy government has to
step in and award his legal council a fat fee for pointing it out.

 

I would tell you what I think about you, your lawsuit and lawyer but you
might sue me too. That's what people like you do.

Rob

 

Ha, ha, not even one sympathetic response!

 

amen testify matt ! =)

 

I don't think he understands what part-time 4WD means. I didn't until I read
up on it.
http://auto.consumerguide.com/articles/index.cfm/act/featuredarticles/article/FA_4WD.html?print=yes
Part-time 4WD is actually a bad thing compared to what the vehicle actually
has. Also, I think that the use of the term "part-time 4WD" on the window
sticker resulted from a Korean-English translation error. You know, it's
only on part of the time.


Maybe they already knew the difference, and understood that you got
something better than what they descibed on the sticker.

 

That conspiracy theory is a lot more plausible than the one that Norm
postulated. Slimeball attorneys do this all the time.

 

There's a concept called "growing up and acting like an adult". Perhaps
you should look THAT up, since evidently your parents didn't explain it
to you. Then again, perhaps you're too stupid to understand it.

You got MORE than you paid for and you're claiming you were
"victimized"? That SHOULD get laughed out of court in any state!

 

question is, why did u buy it if it wassnt the four wheel drive system you
desired?
you obviousely know the difference between part time 4wd and awd.
Did you not notice lack of 4wd lever buttom or transfer case lever?
Then why did you buy it?
maybye someone used the wrong sticker, shit happens.