Best Deals?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by gareth, Aug 7, 2003.

  1. gareth

    gareth Guest

    What is the best time to buy? For instances, if I want a 2003
    Accent, will they be significantly discounted when the 2004's show
    up on the lots?

    Gary
     
    gareth, Aug 7, 2003
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  2. Given that Hyundai is selling cars right around invoice right now, with
    $1500 or even more cash back rebates, I am dubious that you will save a
    lot more money by trying to time your purchase. I believe that in any
    case the end-of-year discounts (usually dealer incentives) are more a
    domestic automaker practice.
     
    Jerry Kindall, Aug 8, 2003
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  3. gareth

    Peter H. Guest

    Given that Hyundai is selling cars right around invoice right now, with $1500
    or even more cash back rebates, I am dubious that you will save a lot more
    money by trying to time your purchase.
    Hyundai's overall strategy is different than the more established brands.

    Your leverage is limited by: 1) the dealer's invoice, 2) the dealer's
    "holdback" (about 2.5 percent on Hyundais; up to 5 percent on competitive
    makes), and 3) rebates.

    If the dealer made absolutely no money on the deal, he *could* sell you the car
    for ( 0.975 * invoice - rebates ) .
     
    Peter H., Aug 8, 2003
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  4. Yeah ... my local dealer is offering 1000 dollar discount OR a 1.9
    apr. Seems I remember better deals last Feb on the left over 2002's[/QUOTE]

    Last January, when I bought my GT, the dealer I bought it from had
    about three 2002 models. They were a bit cheaper but only because
    Hyundai increased the sticker for 2003 -- there was no special price
    break on the older models.

    Most automakers have at least one mid-year price increase. They have
    already increased the price of the 2003s by a couple hundred bucks this
    year and could do so again before the 2004s arrive. So even if you get
    a couple hundred bucks off, you might still be paying what you would
    have paid if you bought now.

    So I'd still say buy now if you want a 2003. Or if you want to wait
    and see what they offer for 2004 (variable valve timing on the engine,
    for one -- might be worth it if you can wait), then do that.
     
    Jerry Kindall, Aug 8, 2003
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  5. gareth

    gareth Guest

    Last January, when I bought my GT, the dealer I bought it from had
    about three 2002 models. They were a bit cheaper but only because
    Hyundai increased the sticker for 2003 -- there was no special price
    break on the older models.

    Most automakers have at least one mid-year price increase. They have
    already increased the price of the 2003s by a couple hundred bucks this
    year and could do so again before the 2004s arrive. So even if you get
    a couple hundred bucks off, you might still be paying what you would
    have paid if you bought now.

    So I'd still say buy now if you want a 2003. Or if you want to wait
    and see what they offer for 2004 (variable valve timing on the engine,
    for one -- might be worth it if you can wait), then do that.
    [/QUOTE]


    Thanks Jerry - What is variable valve timing and what is its
    advantage?

    Gary
     
    gareth, Aug 10, 2003
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  6. Basically, they manipulate the timing of the intake and/or exhaust
    valves, depending on conditions. There is no single timing that is
    best for all conditions, so engines with fixed timing are a compromise
    of sorts. The result of variable valve timing is better fuel economy
    and/or more power, depending on how the system is tuned. I imagine
    they are going for the "more MPG" tuning on the Elantra, but I happen
    to think a little extra low-end torque wouldn't hurt.

    Variable valve timing is one of the reasons a gas-powered 2003 Civic
    gets 38 MPG highway while a gas-powered 2003 Elantra gets 33 MPG hwy.
    There are other reasons, of course. For one, the Civic's engine has a
    smaller displacement and generates less power. But the variable valve
    timing is probably responsible for at least 3 MPG of that.

    Hyundai's variable valve timing system is already on Elantras currently
    being sold in Korea and I believe it is slated to appear on the 2004
    models here in the US.
     
    Jerry Kindall, Aug 10, 2003
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  7. gareth

    seahorse271 Guest

    If you want more VTEC information (with pictures), go to:
    <http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question229.htm>

    S271
     
    seahorse271, Aug 11, 2003
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  8. gareth

    gareth Guest

    Thank you Jerry for the great explanation and thank you seahorse271
    for the wonderful link !!!

    Gary
     
    gareth, Aug 12, 2003
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