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Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by screwtape iii, Dec 10, 2003.

  1. #2 son drove his 2000 Accent into the back of a car today. I won't know
    until we get it appraised but it's close to being totaled.

    This is a repeat from 3 years ago when #1 son did the same to his '94
    Scoupe. Well, not exactly, that time it was a boat he hit.

    I did learn one thing from the first time - this time I have collision
    insurance on the car.

    Perhaps someone could explain to me why I've been able to drive 34 years and
    never have a chargeable accident? Am I being UNREASONABLE to expect the
    same from my kids?
     
    screwtape iii, Dec 10, 2003
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  2. Yes. And there's no Easter Bunny, either.

    Regards,

    Neil
     
    Neil J. Hubbard, Dec 10, 2003
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  3. screwtape iii

    Leon. Guest

    #2 son drove his 2000 Accent into the back of a car today.

    Probaby he y he forgot to drive and started acting like a passenger. The car
    just kept going where it thought the driver wanted it to go.

    Hyundai arent known for high energy absorbtion in the front end. IE, when it
    squashed the bumper bar, it also squashed the radiator, engine and firewall.

    Well you could just say that your sons had bad luck. maybe.

    You reasonably expect them to be reasonable drivers.
    But being a reasonable driver doesnt actually mean you never have a
    chargeable accident.

    I am thinking of examples like this ... like I am driving down the road
    behind Car A, Car B turns onto the same road between me and car A, Car A
    then stops to park... obvious result, I hit Car B, and Car B tells the cop
    that I just ran into him, nothing else .

    Ok so Car B has failed to give way to me and also dangerously drove to close
    to car A.
    But I have to prove this , and the cop doesnt want to argue about these
    things on the road, that means I get a ticket and the damage/insurance bill
    and if I want to challenge it, I have to take it to court ...

    This happened to me before. I am driving in my lane with a large gap in
    front, and approaching a lumpy curved bridge over a railway line... A small
    car shoves over into the front of me, and while I am just checking that I
    can stop and also steering around the curve and looking to see if I can
    change lanes away from the mad driver, and we go up the curve of the bridge.
    ....ah, screech, crunch,bang....
    mad driver has had to stop and left me without anywhere to go. And I didnt
    remember what happened, I should have said that to the cops. but I said a
    partial truth to the cop - that was that I didnt see them stopping- I didnt
    see because I had a car illegally change lanes in front of me, and that car
    had illegal tinting on its brake lights (it was almost sunset and the sun
    reflected off them) , and it had illegal tinting on its windows (I couldnt
    see through)... See it was bad luck. I got caught because someone else put
    me in the dangerous position on the road- directly behind them.
     
    Leon., Dec 10, 2003
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  4. screwtape iii

    WR Guest

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    Urr. ERROR , ERROR, Danger Will Robinson.....

    If you hit Car B 100% in the rear, and your car is 100% in the front
    damaged, you are 100% AT FAULT! No ifs, ands or Buts! (You were
    following too close.

    Your example above is YOUR fault, and you had a chargeable accident.

    When someone squeezes in, YOU SLOW down (fast), because you are "tail
    gating"
     
    WR, Dec 10, 2003
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    The Steven Guest

    Perhaps someone could explain to me why I've been able to drive 34 years
    and
    I don't want to say yes, but in a way, yes.
    If I may, I've only been driving 25 years, and one thing I remember was when
    I was given the opportunity to drive my father's car (note: my father's car,
    I didn't have one of my own) I did EVERYTHING I could to "earn" the next
    opportunity to drive the car. And if I didn't earn the opportunity, I
    didn't drive. Tickets equaled grounding, and that was it, I paid the ticket
    and I didn't drive.

    Now, not all kids who have their own car may not be this way, but the ones
    in my neighborhood seem to feel that having, whether by being given or
    buying on their own, car of their own seems to be the reward for living long
    enough to get a drivers license. And sadly, they seem to drive as if there
    are no consequences to their method of driving.
     
    The Steven, Dec 10, 2003
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  6. screwtape iii

    Xiaoding Guest

    You see, the world is a joke. You are the "Straight Man". Plus, you get to pay.
     
    Xiaoding, Dec 10, 2003
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  7. screwtape iii

    Xiaoding Guest

    Never leave too much space in front of your car. If you drive
    politely, you are what is referred to as a "sucker". Hence, your
    being found at fault. The world hates suckers. You need to be more
    agressive. :)
     
    Xiaoding, Dec 10, 2003
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  8. screwtape iii

    Leon. Guest

    Well my point is the cops think like you!

    and since they are morons, I wont argue with you either,
     
    Leon., Dec 11, 2003
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  9. screwtape iii

    WR Guest

    I might be a moron, but I don't have an accident.

    Sorry, I had to say it, you set me up.

    Not to be a jerk, but in your example why didn't Car B hit Car A. Only
    YOU hit Car B. The reason is simple, you were not paying attention.
    I'm not saying you are a bad driver or anything else, but Car B
    obviously was paying attention to leave enough room in front of
    Him/Her, but you did not adjust for the current conditions. Car B is
    an ass hole, I agree. But ass holes contribute to accidents, not
    necessarily cause them.

    Let's take the SUV upside down on the freeway. The reason it is upside
    down is because of speed, lack of training and the ability to adjust
    to current conditions. Not because the tire went flat, or the small
    car that cut off the SUV or any number of other excuses.

    BTW, I am not a cop. Just a joe that drives for a living.

    Happy Holidays :)
     
    WR, Dec 12, 2003
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  10. screwtape iii

    Lucero Guest

    I think taking the radio out of a car is a good start to a safer driving
    teenager.
    Don
     
    Lucero, Dec 13, 2003
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  11. screwtape iii

    WR Guest

    I think taking the following out would help:

    1. The radio
    2. The cigarette
    3. The coffee cup
    4. The dog
    5. The Cell Phone
    6. The kids.

    Some of the above would be hard to remove, but all of the above has
    caused a rollover on the freeway. You have a good point, but I guess
    the major point is you MUST avoid the distractions.
     
    WR, Dec 13, 2003
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  12. screwtape iii

    The Steven Guest

    I think taking the radio out of a car is a good start to a safer driving
    Amen Brother!*








    *No faith, or absence of faith is specified, recommended, offered, or
    advised.
    Your belief system may vary. Please consult those you consider wise or
    learned for further details.
     
    The Steven, Dec 13, 2003
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  13. Well, Allstate's estimator gave me a repair quote today - $3250. The only
    reason the car wasn't totalled was the air bags hadn't deployed.

    I'm off to the body shop Monday morning...
     
    screwtape iii, Dec 20, 2003
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