2003 XG350L Airbags

Discussion in 'Hyundai Grandeur / Azera / XG' started by LaidBack Bill, Dec 23, 2003.

  1. My wife recently crashed out 2003 XG 350L. Fortunately she and our son were
    wearing seat belts and walked away without a scratch. The car is close to
    being totaled -- it's still being looked at -- and the insurance adjuster as
    well as the police were concerned that the airbags did not deploy. Has
    anyone else experienced this?

    Here's a photo of the car: http://laidbackradio.net/images/XG350L.gif

    -Bill
     
    LaidBack Bill, Dec 23, 2003
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    Jim Vatunz Guest

    you say fortunately. don't you have laws to require seat belts be
    worn?
    it looks like a fairly minor accident and i doubt anybody wearing
    seatbelts would be hurt in that type of accident. i'd say it wasn't
    hard enough to trigger the air bags, nor should it have.

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    Jim Vatunz, Dec 23, 2003
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  3. Bill,

    Any idea what her speed was at the time of impact? My son ran his Accent
    into the back of another car 2 weeks ago. The damage was similar to what
    yours is. He estimates he was doing 15 mph at the time of impact. The only
    reason the car wasn't totaled was the fact the air bags didn't deploy.
     
    screwtape iii, Dec 23, 2003
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    James Guest

    Very dramatic photo. The lack of working air bags should be reported at
    once to the Feds as there may be a recall in order for this serious
    situation.
     
    James, Dec 24, 2003
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    Nikoli Yetti Guest

    My wife had a head on collision while driving a ford Taurus wagon. The air
    bags did not deploy. The car was totaled. My wife suffered neck problems
    (whiplash.) A ford f-150 ran a red light, and the collision was 30 mph.
     
    Nikoli Yetti, Dec 24, 2003
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    James Guest

    Ouch! Now I'm getting concerned since my daily driver is a Taurus SHO.
     
    James, Dec 24, 2003
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  7. Her speed was between 35 and 40 mph. She rode up on a frozen snow bank
    (about 20" high) and into a tree. My guess is that impact speed was between
    30 and 35 mph.
     
    LaidBack Bill, Dec 24, 2003
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  8. The law in Massachusetts requires seatbelts to be worn, but Massachusetts
    law also required drivers to drive at or below the posted speed...not
    something you see happen very often! My family has gotten into the habit of
    buckling up every time we get into a car. I say fortunately because like
    all "habits" there could be a time when you do the opposite.

    As a family we buckled up long before the law required us to do so. Like
    the saying goes, accidents usually happen within a few miles of your house.
    The trip my son and wife were on was less than 5 miles -- about 7 minutes
    tops. We make that trip at least 10 times per week. I know myself that
    I've arrived home, reached down to unfasten my belt and realized that I had
    forgot to buckle it -- it happens. I usually realize it myself within a few
    minutes and quickly buckle it...

    Her speed at impact was probably between 30 and 35 MHP. Given the location
    of the impact and the speed I would think the airbags would have deployed.
    In fact the insurance company has ordered a diagnosis and I have made a
    formal report to Hyundai.

    -Bill
     
    LaidBack Bill, Dec 24, 2003
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  9. Humm. She probably had all 4 wheels locked and the computer thought she was
    stopped. If she'd impacted the tree even at 30 mph there'd be some
    intrusion into the passenger compartment by the engine or frame. I suspect
    she was going much slower at the actual moment of impact.

    The car did it's job - your wife and child are safe. Time to total it and
    get another vehicle.
     
    screwtape iii, Dec 24, 2003
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    Art Guest

    I read somewhere that Airbags only deploy in crashes above 32 MPH or
    cause damage to the sensors at the front of the vehicle. I think
    this was in the documentation for my 98 ranger. I will see if I can
    find it.
     
    Art, Dec 24, 2003
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    Jim Vatunz Guest

    i'm glad you have the family in the habit of wearing them. the thought
    of being fined should make it 2nd nature for everybody.
    maybe your car has a european air bag sensor in it? the europeans have
    their air bags set to trigger at a far more sensible speed than the
    USA and unfortunately the Australian standard. with universal seat
    belt usage there's no need for them to trigger at low speeds.

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    Jim Vatunz, Dec 24, 2003
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  12. Air bags are something you really don't want going off in your face unless
    the alternative is injury or death.
     
    screwtape iii, Dec 24, 2003
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    theta00k Guest

    I know many literatures including owner's manuals say that the air bags go off
    when the car moving over a certain speed is impacted, but that's just not
    true. The decision to deploy the frontal air bags is not based on the absolute
    speed of the moving vehicle; it's the acceleration/deceleration rate that the
    air bag computer constantly monitors to determine whether the deceleration
    rate crosses the programmed threshold.
    If the bags didn't go off and your wife and kid is now on a life support
    system, then I'd say it warrants an investigation, but in your case, I don't
    understand what your insurance company's concern is, regarding the
    nondeployment.
     
    theta00k, Dec 25, 2003
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    XGman Guest

    It looks like about $7200 in repairs, I doubt they will total it
    (although I can't see the rear and I see the trunk is open). The air
    bags on most cars require TWO sensors to be injured to set off the
    bag(s). It looks like maybe one sensor got hit, but the passenger side
    is still ok so that may be the reason.
    Lets thank God that the XG350 can keep your family safe. That is why I
    bought it (for weight!). If the bags DID go off, both would most likly
    have a "scrach" or bruise.
    By the way, this is the only problem with Hyundai's is that insurance
    may be quicker to total than lets say an Infinity because the cost to
    repair is so close to the cost to replace.
    This is only a problem for the new car owner, after 4 years its a
    wash.
     
    XGman, Dec 25, 2003
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    Jason Guest

    Most definitely. When my mom was in an accident in her 2001 XG300 the
    passenger-side air bag broke her right arm, wrist, and two fingers.
    It's better than getting killed but I can't help but thinking that if
    the thing hadn't gone off she would have been fine. Oh, and they
    totalled the car, she bought a 2002 XG350.
     
    Jason, Dec 26, 2003
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