1995 X3 Excel window winder problem

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Rayc, Aug 17, 2006.

  1. Rayc

    Rayc Guest

    Hi,

    We have had this Excel since new with very few real issues.

    The one that is causing me drama is the windows are becoming difficult to
    wind down past about half way. I anticipate that the regulator may need some
    work, meaning I need to remove the door trim to gain access.

    I have been to the Hyundai tech site and printed the exploded view of the
    door assembly and instructions for adjustment of the regulator. The winder
    is meant to have a clip retaining it which can be removed with a
    screwdriver. However I have tried in vain to do this and have had no success
    at all.

    I am not sure that the instructions are correct, can someone please shed
    some light on this for me.

    Thanks and cheers,

    Ray
     
    Rayc, Aug 17, 2006
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  2. Rayc

    hyundaitech Guest

    The clip is exceptionally difficult to push out with a screwdriver. It's a
    c-shaped clip behind the trim washer with the opening of the c facing the
    knob on the winder. I remove these by putting a flat blade screwdriver
    between the winder and trim ring going in from the knob end of the winder,
    and prying back on the trim ring while turning the winder. This usually
    results in the prying pressure pushing the clip off the winder.

    But before you disassemble everything, look at the rubber window runs that
    the window slides in. Make sure they're in good condition. I've seen
    several of these get kinked up and prevent proper window operation. If
    they're kinked up, you should replace them. If not, you might try
    spraying some silicone spray in the groove to see if it helps the window
    operate more smoothly.
     
    hyundaitech, Aug 17, 2006
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  3. Rayc

    Rayc Guest

    Hi Hyundaitech,

    In case you didn't get my thank you on Friday, thanks.

    Had planned to have a go at it this weekend, but seems kids and wife had
    other plans. Will try later in the week.

    Ciao for now,

    Ray
     
    Rayc, Aug 20, 2006
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  4. Rayc

    Rayc Guest

    Hi Hyundaitech,

    Well, I tried putting silicone lube in the door window glass run and winding
    the windows full travel up and down a few times, there's no major
    improvement.

    I finally got the little sucker off, what a stupid design!!

    Having removed the door trim and door trim seal, I inspected the operation
    of the regulator. The channel looks rather dry, but I guess the plastic
    guide/glass bracket assy is meant to be that way. Nevertheless, I applied
    some lube to the plastic guide & channel to see if it had a beneficial
    effect - a minor improvement. It is now very easy to operate when opening,
    but still requires quite a deal more effort to close.

    Upon closer inspection of the door regulator operation, it seems there is
    too much clearance in the guide running on the regulator channel i.e. the
    plastic may be worn down. It appears to be allowing the glass to tilt
    (forward when opening/backwards when closing) and causing undue friction
    against the trailing edge of the guide on the channel when winding closed.

    Is this likely to be the issue with this window, or is it just generally
    getting old and tired?

    We can live with it the way it is, but if the part is the cause and it isn't
    frightfully expensive I'd like to replace it.
    What is involved in doing this?
    Can I just unbolt it and swap it out or is it more of an ordeal than that?
    The online manual doesn't seem to cover this at all.

    Sorry to make this drag out, but with only 64000k's on the clock we'd like
    to keep it going properly a bit longer.

    Thanks and cheers,

    Ray
     
    Rayc, Aug 25, 2006
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